If we vote for Brexit what happens

mrginge

Moby wrote: »

The general consensus among those that know these things is that you get a better deal when part of a bigger block. No need for it to be any more complicated than that.....that is why bigger trading blocks developed....we are striking out alone in an uncertain, volatile world and lets be frank people have voted for that because of xenophobia and immigration. Do you seriously think the brexiteers of Sunderland et al give a flying ** about WTO rules! Posts about how wonderful it is that MacDonalds, (loathsome company they are by the way), are choosing to move here are a sign of desperate hope over reality I'm afraid!

I'm afraid your interpretation of the general consensus is somewhat lacking.

It's called diseconomies of scale and the EU with its 27 fingers in the pie is a prime example.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Tell us how exactly it could be proven - since you would reject any attempt just as you have rubbished how much tax is paid as I show below.

But here you go:
Bloomemberg suggests that McDonalds has confidence in post-Brexit Britain.
Very clearly in fact.

As for why:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-08/mcdonald-s-moves-tax-base-to-u-k-amid-eu-attack-on-burger-giant

I'll take something attributed to Mcdonalds talking about the economy. That quote is talking about corporate structure. I assume UK will need to be more Pro-corporate post Brexit.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

If MacDonalds wanted a tax haven within the EU them there's Eire and Hungary. Given the change in legislation that requires Companies to publish country by country data. McDonalds do appear to be making a longer term decision to address the issue once and for all.

But the UK is leaving the EU, so the EU corporation regulations may not apply and corporations will be able to negotiate special deals that aren't possible in the EU.

ruggedtoast

Looks like Tricky's mum-in-law can come and visit whenever she wants. At least until the Brexit Blackshirts pull up the drawbrdige.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-visa-free-travel-ukraine-georgia-a7462631.html

The deal struck between the European Parliament and the member states “will facilitate the immediate consideration of the two visa liberalisation proposals for Georgia and Ukraine,” MEP Agustin Diaz de Mera said.

He'll be um, delighted.

:rotfl:

StevieJ

Moby wrote: »

The general consensus among those that know these things is that you get a better deal when part of a bigger block. No need for it to be any more complicated than that.....that is why bigger trading blocks developed....we are striking out alone in an uncertain, volatile world and lets be frank people have voted for that because of xenophobia and immigration. Do you seriously think the brexiteers of Sunderland et al give a flying ** about WTO rules! Posts about how wonderful it is that MacDonalds, (loathsome company they are by the way), are choosing to move here are a sign of desperate hope over reality I'm afraid!

I suppose the MSE energy club on this very site is a good example of this :-)

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Looks like Tricky's mum-in-law can come and visit whenever she wants. At least until the Brexit Blackshirts pull up the drawbrdige.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-visa-free-travel-ukraine-georgia-a7462631.html



He'll be um, delighted.

:rotfl:

She can come whenever she wants now, just needs a visa which is easy to apply for.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

But the UK is leaving the EU, so the EU corporation regulations may not apply and corporations will be able to negotiate special deals that aren't possible in the EU.

Shouldn't that be considered a positive then? After all there's a black hole in the budget to be filled. That trade alone isn't going to fill.

CKhalvashi

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

She can come whenever she wants now, just needs a visa which is easy to apply for.

Also, this is for the Schengen, which doesn't include the UK.

Those 2 countries is a step in the right direction, although IMO Georgia shouldn't join the EU and in Ukraine, the situation is a lot less clear cut than in/out.

Moby

mrginge wrote: »

I'm afraid your interpretation of the general consensus is somewhat lacking.

It's called diseconomies of scale and the EU with its 27 fingers in the pie is a prime example.

Utter nonsense...... It is the biggest trading bloc in the world and we are choosing to leave it because of little Englander attitudes swamping our judgement! I prefer economies of scale......its a more valid theory.

CKhalvashi

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

So Amazon are the first to move due to EU greed; who will be next?
And will you still deny that the EU themselves are a major cause of these companies seeking to move?

At least you don't deny that the UK will benefit - though as for your fatuous comment "assuming we can make Mcdonalds pay tax when no-one else does" you ignore the following

I do have to question whether we want a company that is in trouble with the regulators where they're coming from.

You Brexit lot claim that you don't want EU criminals moving to the UK, yet it's a completely different story if it's McDonalds, if of course McD's is convicted of any wrongdoing by the appropriate regulators and fined accordingly.

This all sounds very hypocritical IMO.