If we vote for Brexit what happens

TrickyTree83

mayonnaise wrote: »

Every cloud has a silver lining.







https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/24/europeans-start-liking-the-e-u-again/

If it wasn't based on data out of date, it'd be true.

The Italian constitutional referendum (based on a backdrop of trying to sidestep EU law) and the outcome of the Austrian election will be your first real glimpse at attitudes towards the EU in other countries.

The_Last_Username

mwpt wrote: »

I'm not even going to bother opening that.

Maybe you should, and open your eyes a little.
The link isn't about Sharia Law; it's an Israeli's view of the EU.
(Though Jock could have made clearer what the link actually is.)
Looks very much like you could do with it TBH.

An excerpt from the first para. as a taster:

While the European Union is in deep crisis, it has once again found it necessary to condemn Israel for approving the building of a few houses in the disputed territories.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/19816

Shakethedisease

Out before deals made ?

Sky Sources: EU prioritises Brexit transition deal, refusing UK ask of parallel final trade talks.

The EU does not want to discuss the long-term relationship until "pending issues" are ironed out and a transition deal agreed.

European Union negotiators have adopted a three-tier approach with the UK for the Article 50 negotiations expected next year.
Sky News has been told that Michel Barnier, the European Commission's top Brexit negotiator, wants to discuss "pending issues" - such as UK payments to the EU, border issues and the single market - at the same time as considering a post-Brexit transition deal.

Under the EU's plan, a "final deal" or "association agreement" for any long-term trade relationship - the third tier - would only be discussed after these first two stages have been agreed.
It will come as a blow to UK Brexit Secretary David Davis, who told counterparts in Brussels this week that Britain wanted to agree the final deal within the negotiation period for the first two - what has come to be known as "parallelism".

http://news.sky.com/story/eu-adopting-three-tier-approach-to-brexit-sources-tell-sky-news-10670578

Rinoa

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Out before deals made ?

http://news.sky.com/story/eu-adopting-three-tier-approach-to-brexit-sources-tell-sky-news-10670578

The more difficult they make it, the more chance we'll go the WTO route. Hopefully sooner rather than later. Free of the EU forever. Fantastic news. :T

Thrugelmir

mwpt wrote: »

What fact? That Greece went on a credit binge and overspent like governments are prone to do

Wasn't just the Government. Why was Greece the largest market Porsche had for the Cayenne. Wouldn't have anything to do with German banks providing good finance deals by any chance. Germany's recent success has in part been built at the expense of others.

Masomnia

Greece didn't meet the requirements under Maastricht to join the EU in the first place, but they got Goldmann Sachs in to fiddle it. The EU are just as complicit, because they were willing to break their own rules to let them in, and are now punishing them.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Out before deals made ?

What's Nicola going to do if trade is a low priority?

vivatifosi

Masomnia wrote: »

Greece didn't meet the requirements under Maastricht to join the EU in the first place, but they got Goldmann Sachs in to fiddle it. The EU are just as complicit, because they were willing to break their own rules to let them in, and are now punishing them.

I wonder why GS isn't more under the microscope given its role in BHS too. I wonder if there are other cases.

Moby

LauraW10 wrote: »

Brown borrowed into the future, expecting receipts to continue rising. This is partly why public spending has increased so much since the crisis – we still have an overbloated public sector with record pay levels, growing debt and deficit, and little economic growth. Brown created the illusion of prosperity but by ditching manufacturing concentrating instead on The City, he ensured we will not recover for a long long time. Had we gone the Balls route, our debts and deficits would be even greater.

All Govmts borrow into the future but this govmt has no idea how to grow an economy. That was the only way to deal with the deficit. Austerity has backfired big time! Record pay levels in the public sector? What planet are you on. I work in the public sector and haven't had a pay rise for six years! This is the worst govmt I've seen in my years on this planet!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/24/ifs-warnsf-biggest-squeeze-on-pay-for-70-years-autumn-statement

Paul Johnson, the thinktank’s director, said: “One cannot stress how extraordinary and dreadful that is, more than a decade without real earnings growth. We have certainly not seen a period remotely like it in the last 70 years and quite possibly the last 100.”

Moby

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/24/mr-brexit-nigel-farage-cash-lucrative-coast-to-coast-new-year/
Well done Brexiteers you've made one man very happy and he'll be filling his pockets! .....