If we vote for Brexit what happens

kabayiri

Conrad wrote: »

All sorts of vast costs will be coming our way if we remain, why would you ignore these? Italy's situation is getting precarious, and if we are in, one way or another we will be billed for it just as we got billed for our thriving prostitution industry


EU is constantly in the news talking of the need for increased contributions

Interesting.

Has anyone ever costed the impact of a disintegration of the Euro, either partly or whole?

I think the EU could fracture along North/South lines.

mwpt

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Soon perhaps only the most vociferous anarchic pro-remainers will continue in this propagandist vein.
Like they do within much of these forums.

I wonder if many of you realise that we see you in the same manner you see us. The vociferous anti EU propoganda you guys serve up is looked up by many of us in the same way.

mwpt

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

They wanted assurances. They got them. Business as usual for Nissan. Why are we trying to blow it up to be more than that?

Why are you trying to do the opposite?

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

I wonder if many of you realise that we see you in the same manner you see us. The vociferous anti EU propoganda you guys serve up is looked up by many of us in the same way.

one might think that some-one as perspective as yourself wouldn't behavour like that but would provide a more balanced discussion

TrickyTree83

mwpt wrote: »

Why are you trying to do the opposite?

Just leaving the hyperbole out of it. It is what it is.

mwpt

Conrad wrote: »

In terms of remoaners on here, the bulk of them paint a very bleak picture of life outside the EU, about regrets and apologies for this grave error, for little Englander isolationism, with drawbridges up, the laughing stock of Europe, unable to co-operate across borders, with rampant inflation, no mention of the positives at all etc etc

Bizzare that you filtered out this fact and then go onto to decry filtering, lol.

I'm well aware that there are doom stories. Are you aware that the quitters are exaggerating or completely making things up about the UK issues inside the EU?

BTW look back at your last 25 posts - aside from criticising others debating style I see very little

I see you went looking for negative posts from me. Try harder, you might be able to scratch something up so I fit your neat little profile.

My debate here has largely been from a view that I am not convinced by economic doom stories either way, but I do think brexit is a middle finger up to our partners of the last 40 years, when times are tough we are happy to abandon them. And that I feel we are doing so for no real valid reasons. Immigration won't be cut much, we won't be getting some magical tiger economy, we won't be saving African farmers, our services won't suddenly magically improve without more government investment, we won't notice that EU laws are suddenly no longer burdensome on our lives.

mwpt

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Just leaving the hyperbole out of it. It is what it is.

No, you're trying to play it down, according to your own bias.

TrickyTree83

mwpt wrote: »

No, you're trying to play it down, according to your own bias.

How am I playing it down?

Nissan had concerns, those concerns have been addressed by the government.

Investment in skills, training, R&D and seeking tariff free trade with the EU.

That's exactly what it is.

Not everything in life has to be a pearl clutching psychodrama.

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

My debate here has largely been from a view that I am not convinced by economic doom stories either way, but I do think brexit is a middle finger up to our partners of the last 40 years, when times are tough we are happy to abandon them. And that I feel we are doing so for no real valid reasons. Immigration won't be cut much, we won't be getting some magical tiger economy, we won't be saving African farmers, our services won't suddenly magically improve without more government investment, we won't notice that EU laws are suddenly no longer burdensome on our lives.

this is a good example of an almost 100% negative post.

StevieJ

What was it that Mandy Rice davies said?

Gloomy' economic predictions are wrong, pro-Brexit MPs say"/> Leading Eurosceptic Cabinet ministers and pro-Leave MPs have hit out at gloomy post-Brexit economic predictions by the (independent) Government's budget watchdog - and claimed its forecasts are wrong.
Coinciding with Chancellor Philip Hammond's Autumn Statement, the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said leaving the EU could cost the UK nearly £60bn.

Or rather to paraphrase.
Well they would would wouldn't they

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/gloomy-economic-predictions-wrong-pro-010600664.html