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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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Can you name a single thing that the EU do for their workers that is better than the UK norm? I won't hold my breath.
That's not really possible, because we have to meet the requirements of the EU directives.
The EU introduced things like the working time directive (admittedly largely ignored by everyone), minimum 14 weeks maternity leave, and presumably various other things I'm not aware of.
My point was largely to the claim that leaving the EU will somehow boost workers rights, when all the evidence I've seen points to them being eroded.
Put it this way; there's nothing stopping the UK government asserting additional workers rights on top of the EU framework, but we've only heard them discuss removing them (reducing the minimum wage in some areas with high unemployment, making it easier for companies to fire staff).0 -
That's not really possible, because we have to meet the requirements of the EU directives.
The EU introduced things like the working time directive (admittedly largely ignored by everyone), minimum 14 weeks maternity leave, and presumably various other things I'm not aware of.
My point was largely to the claim that leaving the EU will somehow boost workers rights, when all the evidence I've seen points to them being eroded.
Put it this way; there's nothing stopping the UK government asserting additional workers rights on top of the EU framework, but we've only heard them discuss removing them (reducing the minimum wage in some areas with high unemployment, making it easier for companies to fire staff).
I can happily confirm that you are under no obligation to vote for the current government at the next election.0 -
Can you name a single thing that the EU do for their workers that is better than the UK norm? I won't hold my breath.
You ask a trick question! The UK norm is EU lawFew people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
The 'EU citizen' and any incumbent rights you feel they have, does not exist. As part of a treaty arrangement a group of sovereign states decided to allow the free movement of peoples within an economic area that's all. Brexit I would suggest is an exercise in distancing the UK from the end game where an EU citizen is actually a real thing. So, that being said you're probably twenty years too early to be using "I'm a EU citizen, I have rights" shtick.
Actually the concept of an EU Citizen does exist. It is defined in the Maastrict Treaty and citizens of member nations have certain rights as EU Citizens.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
I believe we are paying the most into camps outside Syria.
Germany has not had vast millions over the last 50 years, nor did she open the floodgates like Blair did for the accession nations in 2004.
We also commit more in Foreign Aid and no one digs deeper than the British public regards foreign appeals.
Why blame the EU for non-EU asylum seekers? If you were a Syrian displaced from a war torn country, where would you go?
Unfortunately we, and to a lesser extent the French, Belgians, Dutch and Germans have inflicted so many atrocities on other nations in the past we havea moral obligation to help.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Why blame the EU for non-EU asylum seekers? If you were a Syrian displaced from a war torn country, where would you go?
Unfortunately we, and to a lesser extent the French, Belgians, Dutch and Germans have inflicted so many atrocities on other nations in the past we havea moral obligation to help.
what atrocities are these?0 -
Actually the concept of an EU Citizen does exist. It is defined in the Maastrict Treaty and citizens of member nations have certain rights as EU Citizens.
Thank you for the education, although apart from the right to move and reside anywhere in the EU the rights don't amount to much I notice.“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
Implicit in your question (a remain standard line) is the assertion we have not lost rights to Brussels. In which case you wont be missing anything.
James O'Brien always plays this card, thinking it's a killer, lol.
He claims we make pretty all our own laws and rules, so again I have to conclude from this that we wont miss Brussels then as they do nothing.
And yet............remoaners tell us 'we wont be able to cope with amending 40 years of Brussels law'. So we did cede masses of law making then.
My head spins.
What do you think we should spend the £28 million (or so) per day on once we leave?
So what was your answer to the question. Its rather lost in amongst all that deflectingFew people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
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