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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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setmefree2 wrote: »Well if you voted Leave you were clearly voting to Leave the single market - all the major politicians said so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEDnB0raTQQ
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You said All major politicians believed this.
The video shows a number of Conservative cabinet ministers on the leave side who clearly did believe it.
It aslo shows Cameron and Osborne saying this during a campaign where they were trying to point out the consequence of a leave vote. Their views after the vote might well be different, as clearly were the remain supporters who said a leave vote would see £350m a week go to the NHS.
That is not all major politicians. The SNP, Greens, Labour, LibDems have not said that.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
If you stay in the EEA then you may as well stay in the EU. The EEA effectively means you cant control movement and are subject to all the rules with virtually no input on rule creation. So, absolutely no point leaving the EU.
It would almost certainly require you to stay in the customs union. So, no ability to arrange trade deals. And if you are not in the EU, you will not have any input into trade deals you would be party to. So, again, no point leaving the EU in that case.
The only way you leave the EU and regain the controls is to leave the customs union and that means no EEA, EUI or EFTA.
The !!!!! footing around soft/hard and hypothetical seems daft considering that the objectives laid out only fit a hard brexit. The most logical outcome would be a hard brexit with the a trade deal. This would likely see european courts being used in disputes for outward trade within the EU and UK courts for inward trade within the UK. Logic and the EU are not something that go hand in hand. What we end up with will probably be some fudge that fits no current model that allows the EU to make some claims it hurts to be on the outside whilst the UK gets some concessions (but not everything) so it can claim it got something. And that is why there is !!!!! footing around...
Nope.
Now you fundamentally misunderstand my friend.
http://www.efta.int/media/publications/fact-sheets/EEA-factsheets/GoodsFactSheet.pdf
Page 7The EEA Agreement provides for a free trade area covering all the EEA States. However, the EEA
Agreement does not extend the EU Customs Union to the EEA EFTA States
Why does everyone think you're in the customs union in EEA/EFTA?0 -
A devalued Yuan makes their artificial trees cheaper.
If you're already buying British at the added value end of the market you won't see the inflation. It doesn't follow it's a money saving strategy to pay, say, £20 for a British tree because an imported one has gone from £13 to £15.
A suggestion was made here the other day about buying £18/ bottle English wine because an Asda 3 for £12 might go up to 3 for £15. Not going to happen.
I can see why your buying choice will be unchanged but what about someone who purchased an imported tree last year (that still smells nice)? Plastic tree/ not bother/ extra lights outside instead etc?
Just to add another dimension the UK government can always lower VAT if they want to reduce prices that much, to match the incoming tariffs. This would also lower inflation.0 -
Ouch, few small companies and homes without a mac or pc
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/28/brexit-apple-mac-customers-prices-rise-us-dollar-pound-sterling
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/28/vince-cable-assurances-nissan-uk-customs-union-tariff
"If the former Liberal Democrat MP is correct, it would make the job of Liam Fox, the international trade secretary, redundant because membership of the customs union means the UK could not strike its own independent trade deals."
Oh well... bye bye Brexit.0 -
Oh come on Yamumuk.
Apple is simply profiteering here. There is no need for an apple device to increase by "hundreds of pounds" because of the devaluation in sterling. £20-30 max maybe. But up to £500? Simple profiteering....and people will pay it.0 -
You said All major politicians believed this.
The video shows a number of Conservative cabinet ministers on the leave side who clearly did believe it.
It aslo shows Cameron and Osborne saying this during a campaign where they were trying to point out the consequence of a leave vote. Their views after the vote might well be different, as clearly were the remain supporters who said a leave vote would see £350m a week go to the NHS.
That is not all major politicians. The SNP, Greens, Labour, LibDems have not said that.
Peace mate. I give up. However, you are clearly in the minority.0 -
Who needs Macs when you can buy a 100% patriotic British computer like a Sinclair ZX or Amstrad.Ouch, few small companies and homes without a mac or pc
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/28/brexit-apple-mac-customers-prices-rise-us-dollar-pound-sterlingDon't blame me, I voted Remain.0 -
TrickyTree83 wrote: »Nope.
Now you fundamentally misunderstand my friend.
http://www.efta.int/media/publications/fact-sheets/EEA-factsheets/GoodsFactSheet.pdf
Page 3
Why does everyone think you're in the customs union in EEA/EFTA?
It's really not happening.0 -
Another blow for Remoaners, this is turning into a tsunami, lol!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-world-bank-rating-brexit-british-business-economy-a7384151.html
French plan to steal business from Brexit Britain undermined by World Bank rating
Despite efforts at economic reform, its position actually dropped one place since last year
France was rated 29th in the world for "ease of doing business", behind less economically developed countries such as Georgia, Latvia and Macedonia.
Glad it amuses you.
However there are 26 other E.U. member states and I thought they were supposed to be off to New York ?
It's hardly worth replying to these poor remain rebuttles, so weak they are.0 -
Look, the UK is still in the EU as we speak.
In March Article 50 will be invoked so the PM says.
The bottom line is.... does ANYONE really know what the outcome of that will be?
There is a very short timeframe after A50 to negotiate trade agreements and unwind all the rest of the existing EU framework and legislation.
My concern is not Brexit, but the mechanisms surrounding a sleek exit.0
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