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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • gfplux wrote: »
    Why are you so angry and impolite.
    I cannot be alone in noticing that whenever your views are questioned you cry "wolf", here and in other threads in these forums.

    If you do not wish to percieve such opinions perhaps you should cease posting anti-British and vehemently anti-leave-voting rhetoric.

    P.S.
    Describing our nation as "little Britain" is not polite.
    Just so you know.
  • gfplux wrote: »
    One thing I do not miss about Britain is how so many people are angry.
    I don't think you should be so proud of how your anger can be so much better than others.
    I also intrepetate your "mild irritation" as very rude and hurtful.

    And

    You should be sooo happy as you are Brexit.

    You really DO have quite a problem with comprehension, don't you?
    It would appear to be about as good as your grammar.
    I.e. not very.

    For example it would appear that you failed to understand that I was not angry or even mildly irritated.

    This is an open forum.
    Posters - yes, even yourself - can easily refuse to respond if they do not like the direction any post is taking.
    You choose not to - AND continue in your propagandist anti-British anti-Brexit vein.

    So rude and hurtful?
    Compared to your posts?
    Frankly, laughable.

    Oh, and I am NOT Brexit; I am pro-Brexit.
  • The_Last_Username
    The_Last_Username Posts: 3,315 Forumite
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    edited 24 October 2016 at 8:21PM
    gfplux wrote: »
    Democracy in the EU at work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/eu-trade-deal-with-canada-collapses-as-belgium-refuses-to-sign

    The European Union’s hopes of signing a free-trade agreement with Canada this week appear to have gone up in smoke, after Belgium announced it could not sign the treaty because of opposition from regional parliaments.

    Dio you not think that perhaps a better form of democracy would have been to consult - just for example, mind - Wallonia and indeed the rest of the EU BEFORE spending seven years upon a scheme?
    Instead of being (in essence) so secretive about proposals and then asking at the last moment?
    It is like being presented as a fait accompli, no?


    ETA - Donald Tusk doesn't thing it's over yet:
    Donald Tusk ‏@eucopresident Together with PM @JustinTrudeau, we think Thursday's summit still possible. We encourage all parties to find a solution. There's yet time.
  • The latest Tweet from Tusk:
    Donald Tusk ‏@eucopresident Together with PM @JustinTrudeau, we think Thursday's summit still possible. We encourage all parties to find a solution. There's yet time.

    Are we about to see (ahem) "persuasion" from the EU then?
  • Ballard
    Ballard Posts: 2,985 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Was that in your employment contract? Normally there's limitations in place to protect employees against unreasonable demands from employers.

    No it wasn't. I was told by the general manager that by law they had to offer an interview with another branch and being as they were all abroad that's where it would have been. I was under no pressure to accept an interview so it was a simple box-ticking exercise.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    There is a very clear agreement between all EU member states that they will not indulge in state aid - i.e. states will not use public funds to subsidise their own domestic industries to protect them from overseas competition. And that is exactly what Ireland is doing by giving particular companies special sweetheart tax deals.

    That all seems perfectly reasonable to me. Ireland agreed to that when they joined the EU, its there in black and white in the EC treaty they signed up to. Signing up to a perfectly reasonable agreement is not a "loss of sovereignty" anymore than you lost your sovereignty by having an employment contract or a mortgage contract.

    Exactly the same principle that we have relied on for years to stop other EU member states from using the power of their government to subsidise domestic industries so that they are immune from competition from UK exporters. Good examples would be stopping the German government from subsidising airports so as to encourage flights to go through Germany rather than the UK.

    You either believe in private companies competing through the market or you believe in crony capitalism, quite frankly.

    When it comes to making sweetheart deals with big corporations, Ireland doesn't even begin to compete with Luxemburg which has cashed in at the expense of other EU members for decades.

    And guess who was prime minister during the twenty years or so that these deals were done. None other than our old pal Jean-Claude Juncker. Funny how no one is bothering to take Luxemburg to task.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I am pleased to see that you are now a supporter of financial services and of bankers.

    More concerned for the people who make their sandwiches and deliver their Bollinger!:)
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I believe that most people won't relocate to a different country for work.
    Indeed my expericne of several company relocations, is that most people won't relocate quite modest distances even within the UK.

    Certainly not from a place with lots of alternative employment like London they won't unless they are very well paid or incentivised.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    More concerned for the people who make their sandwiches and deliver their Bollinger!:)

    sounds like you are a champagne socialist

    there is plenty of work for minimum wage pople in london : even more once the flood of cheap labour slows down
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Are we about to see (ahem) "persuasion" from the EU then?

    Aren't we seeing just another difference of opinion in what people (politically speaking) want the the EU to become. At a time when globalisation may well have peaked and to a degree gone into reverse.
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