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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    You know little about us Scots, it seems.
    Angry?
    That's not even mild irritation.
    ;)

    Now, would you care to explain just why you think I should be "soooo happy"?

    One thing I do not miss about Britain is how so many people are angry.
    I don't think you should be so proud of how your anger can be so much better than others.
    I also intrepetate your "mild irritation" as very rude and hurtful.

    And

    You should be sooo happy as you are Brexit.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    Democracy in the EU at work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/eu-trade-deal-with-canada-collapses-as-belgium-refuses-to-sign

    The European Union’s hopes of signing a free-trade agreement with Canada this week appear to have gone up in smoke, after Belgium announced it could not sign the treaty because of opposition from regional parliaments.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Thrugelmir
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    For the EU to fiscally unite, taxation has to be equalised across all member states. Not going to happen anytime soon one imagines. One reason why the Euro is never going to work in it's present form.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    edited 24 October 2016 at 7:38PM
    gfplux wrote: »
    Democracy in the EU at work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/eu-trade-deal-with-canada-collapses-as-belgium-refuses-to-sign

    The European Union’s hopes of signing a free-trade agreement with Canada this week appear to have gone up in smoke, after Belgium announced it could not sign the treaty because of opposition from regional parliaments.

    It is an interesting example of a type of democracy.
    In this case it is just a trade deal, but surpose such a thing allowed a homophobic government like Poland, Latvia etc to dictate an important social policy on gender.

    Much better to have the UK parliament determine policies for the generous open leasted discriminatory people of the UK.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    gfplux wrote: »
    One thing I do not miss about Britain is how so many people are angry.
    I don't think you should be so proud of how your anger can be so much better than others.
    I also intrepetate your "mild irritation" as very rude and hurtful.

    And

    You should be sooo happy as you are Brexit.

    I also expected our brexiteer friends to be a bit happier after the vote. After all, they 'won' or something.
    Maybe they'll be happier when Art.50 is triggered but I wouldn't keep my hopes up. :)
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 24 October 2016 at 7:20PM
    gfplux wrote: »
    Democracy in the EU at work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/eu-trade-deal-with-canada-collapses-as-belgium-refuses-to-sign

    The European Union’s hopes of signing a free-trade agreement with Canada this week appear to have gone up in smoke, after Belgium announced it could not sign the treaty because of opposition from regional parliaments.

    That's old news. Why bother spending 7 years negotiating if that's the outcome? What a waste of time and resources. Let alone taxpayers money. Amounts to the same as Scotland blocking Brexit. Not democratic.

    Was one regional government only. Corbynesque in nature apparently.

    Edit. Seems Brussels City Council was also against. You couldn't make it up. The centre of EU power objecting to EU policy. What a farce.
  • Ballard
    Ballard Posts: 2,985 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Why would your employer move you to Germany at a huge cost. Plenty of locals who could adequately perform your job. Is your German up to scratch? One thing to be a tourist, another to be in business.

    When I was made redundant last year my employer legally had to offer me the chance to apply for a job in their overseas head office. What would have happened had I applied is a mystery as I wasn't interested.
  • Ballard
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    I also expected our brexiteer friends to be a bit happier after the vote. After all, they 'won' or something.
    Maybe they'll be happier when Art.50 is triggered but I wouldn't keep my hopes up. :)

    As I think that I may have already said, some people voted out to limit immigration, some to stop paying the '£350m' to the EU, some to save the NHS. Some for a combination of all three or other reasons. Not everyone will get what they want. No one knows how things will pan out but I think that there's every chance that the phrase 'That's not what I voted for' will be repeated once we leave.
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    So all Brexiteers can relax then.

    There are alternatives if voted down and that's to re-negotiate (with the clock ticking) or leave without a deal. However the government will be wishing to submit a deal which parliament will approve and will have to consider this when negotiating.

    Less chance of being able to get away with a deal which is biased towards being in the best interests of the Conservative party.

    The idea that there will be any scope to renegotiate a parliament-rejected deal is laughable.

    The debate and discussions will go on in parliament from the day article 50 is triggered. All involved parties will get their say. By the time any vote is held - if at all, everyone will know where they stand, everyone will know what we and the EU will move on and everyone will have had their say.

    Someone has to be in charge of this process though. You might not like that being the tories, but they are the government so tough.
    To be honest I'm not really sure what you think the alternative is. Let Jezza run things? Farron?
  • Thrugelmir
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    Ballard wrote: »
    When I was made redundant last year my employer legally had to offer me the chance to apply for a job in their overseas head office.

    Was that in your employment contract? Normally there's limitations in place to protect employees against unreasonable demands from employers.
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