If we vote for Brexit what happens

Yamumuk

A very long thread. I am trying to understand the position of the government. I am wondering if they actual believe what they are saying, posturing or planning ? Or are they just saying that what the Brexit people want to hear right now ?

The main reason for the issues is the banking crisis, the weaknesses of capitalism rearing their ugly head and bad tax policy from governments. Screwing the many normal working people and favouring the super rich few. That is the angle this needs to be resolved from. It is so simple to see and yet so difficult to resolve because of the fear that multinationals and power the mega big businesses hold over government + a big dose of self interest/conflict of interest ?

Are there any unemployed Brexit voters on here? It would be nice to hear their views right now. Seems like people with plenty of money buying new luxury vehicles etc. seem to be fine either way.

It also seems unbelievable that the Tory party, well known for cutting from the weakest in society, starving the NHS, pushing an austerity agenda, not taxing the richest should change their propaganda and seemingly be on the common man's side all of a sudden. Sounds like a big dose of hot air, smoke and mirrors, say one thing , do another - business as usual to me.

Disturbing times we are living in.

CKhalvashi

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Tried to label you because of your internet handle.

:rotfl:

Im honestly beyond the stage where I care

I do find it highly amusing though that apparently I'm not a British citizen because of my username.

Tammykitty

CLAPTON wrote: »

I would like to set zero VAT on female sanitory products
I would like to set zero VAT on products that help reduce global warming by encouraging thermal installation
I would like to scrap the EU medical trial regulations
I would like to better match supply and demand of housing in London and the SE
I would wish to scrap the EU reg for flushing systems in particular the wall hanging urinal regulation
and the other 1,652,095 others that I can readily remember plus lots of the others
and I would like to be able to kick out non Uk EU criminals

I would like to be able to award public sectors tenders to UK companies (instead of every contract over £x having to go through an inefficient tender process)
I would like the UK government to be able to give failing companies (Such as tata steel) subsidies to help them if they feel it is good for the UK overall.
I would like to buy a washing machine that doesn't take 4 hours do to a wash (EU energy saving regulations)


Like you I could name many more

TrickyTree83

Yamumuk wrote: »

A very long thread. I am trying to understand the position of the government. I am wondering if they actual believe what they are saying, posturing or planning ? Or are they just saying that what the Brexit people want to hear right now ?

The main reason for the issues is the banking crisis, the weaknesses of capitalism rearing their ugly head and bad tax policy from governments. Screwing the many normal working people and favouring the super rich few. That is the angle this needs to be resolved from. It is so simple to see and yet so difficult to resolve because of the fear that multinationals and power the mega big businesses hold over government + a big dose of self interest/conflict of interest ?

Are there any unemployed Brexit voters on here? It would be nice to hear their views right now. Seems like people with plenty of money buying new luxury vehicles etc. seem to be fine either way.

It also seems unbelievable that the Tory party, well known for cutting from the weakest in society, starving the NHS, pushing an austerity agenda, not taxing the richest should change their propaganda and seemingly be on the common man's side all of a sudden. Sounds like a big dose of hot air, smoke and mirrors, say one thing , do another - business as usual to me.

Disturbing times we are living in.

Don't believe the left narrative blindly.

Only something like 56% of the working population pay income tax.

Of that ~56%, the top 1% pay ~25% of all income tax.

The top ~3,000 earners in the UK pay more than the bottom ~9 million.

wotsthat

..and world peace

mayonnaise

wotsthat wrote: »

..and world peace

...and a good deal for African farmers.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

...and a good deal for African farmers.

one could perceive that as as mug sneering racist ..but I wouldn't of course.

Yamumuk

Where do these stats come from ? I prefer not to believe your statistics blindly. And I am speaking of very large companies such as the multi-nationals (we all know the big names involved) using loopholes. This is well publicized in the media and not a "left narrative" It is clear that companies reporting billions in turnover are clearly not paying their dues.

We all know this is happening and I could post X no. of links but cannot as I am new here.

I find it mind boggling how the seemingly unending optimism of people whop voted Brexit cannot see how this will impact the U.K. negatively for 5-10 years. I am truly envious of this optimism based on no factual evidence whatsoever and in addition a propensity of blustering lots of prophecy based on a vote that people did not understand the implication of.

With that kind of attitude you have everything to prove. I want some answers from the people who voted Brexit, is that too much to ask ?

CLAPTON

Yamumuk wrote: »

Where do these stats come from ? I prefer not to believe your statistics blindly. And I am speaking of very large companies such as the multi-nationals (we all know the big names involved) using loopholes. This is well publicized in the media and not a "left narrative" It is clear that companies reporting billions in turnover are clearly not paying their dues.

We all know this is happening and I could post X no. of links but cannot as I am new here.

I find it mind boggling how the seemingly unending optimism of people whop voted Brexit cannot see how this will impact the U.K. negatively for 5-10 years. I am truly envious of this optimism based on no factual evidence whatsoever and in addition a propensity of blustering lots of prophecy based on a vote that people did not understand the implication of.

With that kind of attitude you have everything to prove. I want some answers from the people who voted Brexit, is that too much to ask ?

you don't seem to have posted one factual piece of information

TrickyTree83

Yamumuk wrote: »

Where do these stats come from ? I prefer not to believe your statistics blindly. And I am speaking of very large companies such as the multi-nationals (we all know the big names involved) using loopholes. This is well publicized in the media and not a "left narrative" It is clear that companies reporting billions in turnover are clearly not paying their dues.

We all know this is happening and I could post X no. of links but cannot as I am new here.

I find it mind boggling how the seemingly unending optimism of people whop voted Brexit cannot see how this will impact the U.K. negatively for 5-10 years. I am truly envious of this optimism based on no factual evidence whatsoever and in addition a propensity of blustering lots of prophecy based on a vote that people did not understand the implication of.

With that kind of attitude you have everything to prove. I want some answers from the people who voted Brexit, is that too much to ask ?

I was merely replying to this point you made:

Screwing the many normal working people and favouring the super rich few.

It's untrue.

Companies are not the 'super rich few'. Tax evasion by large corporate entities is a problem the world over, I'd agree. But lets not say that rich people or high earners don't 'pay their fair share' because they're already contributing massively.

Brexit will eventually pan out the exact same way that not joining the Euro did. The world was going to end after we decided not to join the Euro, it didn't. Would we have been better off inside the Euro? Who knows you can only compare to what actually took place.

People will still go to work, whatever that may be, will still buy goods and food and consume and raise families and generally live life. Although reading some comments on here you would think it would end up as the apocalypse.