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Caught turning on airport double red lines by camera van

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  • peadar
    peadar Posts: 100 Forumite
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    I don't particularly want to stop a claim being filed, and am therefore concerned with winning in court rather than with delaying or preventing them going to court.

    I've been to court before and won (and I'm pretty confident of winning in this case).

    In any case court is no big deal. Worst-case scenario and I somehow lose, it costs a few hundred quid. The real worst-case scenario for me is that they get to waste my time for six years.
  • yotmon
    yotmon Posts: 485 Forumite
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    Yes, but as I said in a previous post, you cannot force someone to sue you. It is entirely up to them if they use the court system to pursue your 'debt'. As long as punters continue to pay their ridiculous demands, then VCS will never have the need to raise their head above the parapet within a court room.
    I agree that if both parties are at loggerheads over the payment of an alleged debt, then the logical answer should be for it to be taken to a court. As long as you continue to deny the debt outright, then it will be their responsibility to explain why it has taken so long to reach court.

    BWLegal said in their letter to me " Our client now requires full payment of the balance in 10 days from the date of this letter, failing which our client has instructed us to commence County Court proceedings against you".

    Yet, in a reply dated 25 days later, they say "Please note our initial letter is a pre legal letter and not a Letter before action".

    So, all bluff and bluster - just the same as any other debt recovery letter. I wouldn't be surprised if they have 'sold' the rights to their headed notepaper and it is in fact VCS sending out these letters. Especially when both a VCS letter saying that the matter has been passed to BW and a BW letter requesting payment were/are being sent out together in the same flaming envelope !
  • Umkomaas
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    Why not issue VCS with an invoice for your wasted time in dealing with this (£19ph litigant in person court rate), but be sensible - say 4 hours. Then if they don't pay you, sue them - LBA followed by a MCOL - see them in court.

    Punch a bully on the nose, then see how brave they are! You take control.

    But you take your chance at the roulette wheel of the county court, where the odds are about 50:50.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • This is never going to end up in a court. It is well known on the forums that the PPC case at airports is very dodgy indeed, and no PPC is going to want their scam tested and investigated in a court room. Pepipoo has a fighting fund of pledges just waiting for a PPC to be daft enough to launch such a claim.
  • I also got a Red line stopping notice 3 years ago and this is being chased by Wright Hassle. This was at the Robin Hood airport, I had not stopped only turning around in a short spur road having got lost, again due to poor road maps. I appealed to the VCS when I first received the notice and of course it was rejected. I then stated that I had no intention of paying the 'fine'. since then I have just had to put up with various debt collectors letters, also ignored.
    Wright Hassle phoned me the other day and again I stated that I did not intend to pay and that the notice was not valid.
    Hopefully I will not receive notice of a county court application but if I did would fight and I am sure I would win.
    Does anyone know how long an application for County Court takes from notification to date for County Court judgment?
  • Fruitcake
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    Badger0505 wrote: »
    I also got a Red line stopping notice 3 years ago and this is being chased by Wright Hassle. This was at the Robin Hood airport, I had not stopped only turning around in a short spur road having got lost, again due to poor road maps. I appealed to the VCS when I first received the notice and of course it was rejected. I then stated that I had no intention of paying the 'fine'. since then I have just had to put up with various debt collectors letters, also ignored.
    Wright Hassle phoned me the other day and again I stated that I did not intend to pay and that the notice was not valid.
    Hopefully I will not receive notice of a county court application but if I did would fight and I am sure I would win.
    Does anyone know how long an application for County Court takes from notification to date for County Court judgment?

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