Caught turning on airport double red lines by camera van

System

I read on here or 'prankster's blog that multi-partnership meetings takes place at JLA which includes local authority Councillors from all the boroughs of Merseyside. I don't know if you live in the area but you certainly could lobby one of these elected members to argue your corner for you.

You'll have just missed the last one [12th Feb 2016] but there will be another along in about 3 months. Gives you time to get others and go along as a group. See here for the next dates

http://www.ukaccs.info/liverpool/

pgres71

Can I just clarify something. Got a PCN last year for stopping for 10 seconds at Liverpool JLA. Appealed initially and appeal was turned down. Have ignored pretty much everything since. Today had a letter from BW Legal to say that they have been instructed by VCS and threatening a CCJ if I don't pay. DO I continue to ignore at this point until I actually receive a CCJ? Thank you in advance.

Ralph-y

Hi and welcome to the forum ........

VCS have yet to take a chance on court

so in all probability you have received a debtcrawler letter


so ......

have a read through this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5035663


and if you still need advice please start your own thread ...

good luck

Ralph:cool:

The_Deep

They cannot threaten you with a CCJ, all they can do is take you to court, before which they must issue a letter before action compliant with Civil Procedure Rules. Whether you get a CCJ or not depends on the judge finding for them, you not paying any award, and IIRC them paying a fee to register the judgement. If they have indeed written as you state, report them to the SRA.

However, I suspect that the letter is peppered with words such as "may", might" and "could", in which case it is just huff, puff, and bluff.

The fact is that airport tickets are nearly always unenforceable. The PPCs know this and are loathe to have their scam exposed in court.

pgres71

Thank you for the response. Quite right it threatens County Court Proceedings not a CCJ. It also says, "we require payment of the balance in full, or alternatively a detailed notice of your reasons for non payment, within 10 days from the date of this letter. If you fail to comply with either of the aforementioned requests, we will commence legal proceedings against you." So it does say "will". So do I give them detailed reasons or do I ignore?

The_Deep

So do I give them detailed reasons or do I ignore?


I would ignore, a court case could bring their house tumbling down around them.

dazster

What you do is to start your own thread.

pgres71

Ok. When I get bollocked for starting a thread by another busy !!!! I will blame you.

peadar

So VCS sent a rejection via snail-mail. It seemed to be a mail-merged or templated response, and there were indications they hadn't actually read my challenge. They ignored most of the points of objection, saying that they would instead respond to them in court. I emailed a brief response to VCS (vehiclecontrol.co.uk) to say ok, let's do that soon.

A day later, a named individual (not the one who signed the letter) at sister company Excel Parking (excelparking.co.uk), who also has an email address with Automatic Number Plate Recognition International (anpr-international.com – the server had this as the return-path, both domains have the same IP), opened the email in Outlook 2007 and read it.

So it is being passed around.

I would not be surprised to receive a Letter before Claim in the near future. The verbose signage may seem bizarre to the person driving by on the Clapham omnibus (and to any academic with any connection to serious research in psychology, semiotics, perceptual skills etc) but I suspect they paid someone handsomely to revise it and may feel considerable false confidence about it.

If and when I get a Letter before Claim, I will post here?

peadar

yotmon wrote: »

I don't know if you live in the area but you certainly could lobby one of these elected members to argue your corner for you.

Yes, I'm local. And I've seen how things have changed around the airport over the years. Fifteen years ago I recall parking on the dual carriageway approach road (back then it wasn't even double-yellowed) before doing a day-trip to Luton. The EasyJet back was seriously delayed, and I found a parking ticket (a real one) when I got back to the car, as I'd parked on a dual carriageway after dark. Those were the days!

Customers of the airport were gradually corralled, to maximise Mr Renshaw-Smith's salary (there never was a 'congestion' problem), starting with double-yellow lines. At some point, I'm not sure when, a £2 charge was introduced just for picking up and dropping off. I presume this was done in tandem with the red lines and vans, to generate said income.

I will lobby local councillors as you suggest, thanks. The Mayor has already spoken out about the damage it does to Liverpool's tourist economy, and there are frequent features in the local press.