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A "difficult " situation bought upon by themselves...I don't think I did misunderstand, I think you're back tracking. The fact that you are frustrated by someone being in a difficult position, rather than spathetic tell me all I really needed to know.
Oh come on, there has been "constructive" advice given to the OP and his GF throughout their education.. They have lessons to "educate" them about sex and how not to get pregnant as a teenager or how not to get a teenager pregnant.Instead of constructive advice, you are suggesting this child is taken from his or her parents.
Oh please, I do hope I've read this wrong......Because in this country it's been agreed that the state will do so, I'll contribute what I can via the various taxes. Like I said if you don't like it, feel free to leave ( thanks to all those 17 year olds who died in mainland Europe and beyond ).
If you want to be pedantic about it, no it hasn't been agreed that the state will do so. The current Government and the Labout Government in the mid 2000's had around 35% of the vote in the election so 2/3 rds of the public didn't vote for the governing party. None of the governments had a majority and as such no mandate. We just struggle through with a flawed system that is supposedly democratic.
Surely you're not trying to somehow link a sleazy teenage pregnancy 2016 to the ultimate sacrifice by the teenagers who fought and died in the name of freedom during 2 World Wars.
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I must say, I feel particularly lucky to have found a board with so many who've led blemish free lives.0
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leveller2911 wrote: »A "difficult " situation bought upon by themselves... - can I just check, you've never been in a difficult situation of your own doing and sought assistance from others?
Oh come on, there has been "constructive" advice given to the OP and his GF throughout their education.. They have lessons to "educate" them about sex and how not to get pregnant as a teenager or how not to get a teenager pregnant. - there's lessons on all sorts of things, doesn't mean that people don't make mistakes.
Oh please, I do hope I've read this wrong...... The way you interpret things isn't really my concern. Feel free to read it the way you choose.
If you want to be pedantic about it, think it's you being pedantic I am aware how the elections work, I don't agree with it, but on the balance of positives and negatives, I accept these short comings. If you don't, feel free to leave. no it hasn't been agreed that the state will do so. The current Government and the Labout Government in the mid 2000's had around 35% of the vote in the election so 2/3 rds of the public didn't vote for the governing party. None of the governments had a majority and as such no mandate. We just struggle through with a flawed system that is supposedly democratic.
Surely you're not trying to somehow link a sleazy - why is it suddenly sleazyteenage pregnancy 2016 to the ultimate sacrifice by the teenagers who fought and died in the name of freedom during 2 World Wars. freedom like freedom to a family life? Freedom to enjoy life? Just to be clear you said a 17 year old cannot be mature enough to have a child, I was simply pointing out that your very right to say such things is directly related to 17 year olds who were mature enough to fight and die for these principles
Please tell me I have read this wrong........
Read whatever way you like, I've made the point clearly enough.
Maybe we should discuss some of the unfortunate situations you've found yourself in? And how the state was there to help you?0 -
missbiggles1 wrote: »
You really shouldn't equate having sex with having a baby - most people don't do the latter until they're financially secure.
Should I not?
You must have a fool proof way of doing the former without risking the latter.
As for the financially secure comment- I'll respectfully disagree. To be financially secure - which I'll translate as not eligible to receive state support, there must be an income of over 55,000, since 'most' people will never get that level of income, and certainly of those who do, it's not until later life.
'Most' people definitely have children before being financially secure.0 -
Originally Posted by Guest101
- can I just check, you've never been in a difficult situation of your own doing and sought assistance from others?
Absolutely but my "situations" were never self inflicted and neither did I receive any finacial assistance if having paid naff all into the system............
17yr old knocked up by bf? .Its sex , not love and being a bloke I can't comment on the girl but being a bloke makes me qualified to know how a young toe rags sleazy mind works.;)why is it suddenly sleazy
freedom like freedom to a family life? Freedom to enjoy life? Just to be clear you said a 17 year old cannot be mature enough to have a child,
Did those 17yr olds that fought for our freedom have a choice whether to fight or not?..........I was simply pointing out that your very right to say such things is directly related to 17 year olds who were mature enough to fight and die for these principles
Ok, fine with me.... In 31yrs of working an contributing I have been out of work 3 times, each time was for 2 months so 6 months in total. The government paid my class 2 NI stamp of around £3.25 a week. In total they contributed £84.50.........Maybe we should discuss some of the unfortunate situations you've found yourself in? And how the state was there to help you?0 -
missbiggles1 wrote: »
Should I not?
You must have a fool proof way of doing the former without risking the latter.
As for the financially secure comment- I'll respectfully disagree. To be financially secure - which I'll translate as not eligible to receive state support, there must be an income of over 55,000, since 'most' people will never get that level of income, and certainly of those who do, it's not until later life.
'Most' people definitely have children before being financially secure.
I don't think it uncommon to be earning £55k before later life, it is, after all, less than the average wage for 2 people.
(Weren't you the poster on an earlier thread who totally misunderstood how contraception failure rates were calculated?)0 -
Guest101 get in touch with the OP and offer them some financial aid since you are so charitable.0
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