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  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    The US is full of poverty, guns and no universal healthcare.

    Very very true.
  • d123
    d123 Posts: 8,729 Forumite
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    ahxcjb wrote: »
    3 UK offer the most competitive international roaming options

    With the new EE and Vodafone roaming plans I think you'll find people disagreeing with that statement...

    If I was going roaming and wanted a full decent service it would be with an EE Max plan nowadays.
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  • mrcamp
    mrcamp Posts: 309 Forumite
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    Ok. Just stay away from the US then, and chill in your own country that does not have all these bad things.
    Heng_Leng wrote: »
    The US is full of poverty, guns and no universal healthcare.
    .
  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    With the new EE and Vodafone roaming plans I think you'll find people disagreeing with that statement...

    Given they've only just recently been _forced_ to do it, I doubt many will. 3 have carved a niche for them with international roaming, and the perception they have created will take a long time for other operators to overcome.
    If I was going roaming and wanted a full decent service it would be with an EE Max plan nowadays.

    Using EE in the UK for 'full decent service' I can entirely understand; they're the only network that appears to be bringing LTE-A technologies to customers. However, for roaming? No, I don't agree, for the main reason that the networks they have roaming agreements with are going to be exactly the same as 3 (and others) do. It literally makes no difference.
  • d123
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    ahxcjb wrote: »
    Given they've only just recently been _forced_ to do it, I doubt many will.

    Interesting, could you explain how they were "_forced_" to offer full speed 4G roaming including tethering in the USA? (which is what this thread is about)



    ahxcjb wrote: »
    No, I don't agree, for the main reason that the networks they have roaming agreements with are going to be exactly the same as 3 (and others) do. It literally makes no difference.

    Maybe a little research is in order? Have a look what Three offers and what EE and Vodafone offer...
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  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    nteresting, could you explain how they were "_forced_" to offer full speed 4G roaming including tethering in the USA? (which is what this thread is about)

    Easy.

    1. New EU law;
    2. 3 has forced other carriers to offer similar non EU options.
    maybe a little research is in order

    I suspect I'm the only one on this board that has requisite technical knowledge to understand the complexities of running a successful LTE network.

    To help you out; only EE has LTE spectrum at low, mid and high band.

    The rest have a mediocre allocation at mainly low band (of which they have not even half the allocation of EE) with Vodafone owning only high band (completely useless outside of heavily built up areas).

    Let me know when your 'research' is complete.
  • d123
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    ahxcjb wrote: »
    Easy.

    1. New EU law;
    2. 3 has forced other carriers to offer similar non EU options.

    EU law forced the companies to offer free roaming in the USA!

    Wow!! I'd never have guessed!

    I suspect I'm the only one on this board that has requisite technical knowledge to understand the complexities of running a successful LTE network.

    To help you out; only EE has LTE spectrum at low, mid and high band.

    The rest have a mediocre allocation at mainly low band (of which they have not even half the allocation of EE) with Vodafone owning only high band (completely useless outside of heavily built up areas).

    Let me know when your 'research' is complete.

    I suspect you know a lot less than you think if:

    1) you think UK allocation has anything to do with speed of service (or type of technology offered) while roaming on foreign networks.
    2) you know as little about the spectrum allocation of the networks (especially Vodafone and what frequencies they are rolling their 4G network out on).

    You might want to check what network assets the UK networks have in the USA and also the exact spectrum allocations available to those networks are in the UK (extra hint, the OFCOM site should help with that).

    PS
    When I started working in the mobile industry the company I was working at was a new company called Mercury One2One...
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  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    d123 wrote: »
    EU law forced the companies to offer free roaming in the USA!

    Wow!! I'd never have guessed!

    Your reading comprehension abilities leave a lot to be desired.
    1) you think UK allocation has anything to do with speed of service (or type of technology offered) while roaming on foreign networks.

    See what I wrote about your reading comprehension abilities? Well, here we are again. You are linking my comments on the state of UK networks [1] with roaming agreements. It's you that is making that link - not me.

    [1] Pointing out why people should not bother 'checking out' what 3 or Vodafone offer.
    2) you know as little about the spectrum allocation of the networks (especially Vodafone and what frequencies they are rolling their 4G network out on).

    If you think Vodafone's miniscule deployment of their 800MHz (2x10MHz) frequency in major cities such as, er, London counts, then you would be woefully mistaken.
    You might want to check what network assets the UK networks have in the USA

    Zero; that's why they have these interesting things called 'roaming agreements'.
    When I started working in the mobile industry the company I was working at was a new company called Mercury One2One...

    Yeah, I guess whilst you were working _retail_[2], and I was working at NSN implementing GSM, I really missed out eh? *tries not to laugh*

    [2] Sorry, had to stop laughing.
  • d123
    d123 Posts: 8,729 Forumite
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    You realise that this thread is only about roaming in the USA?

    Ask yourself what your rambling rubbish has to do with that...




    Oh, and by the way, you probably really should go and read up a bit more if you think Vodafone's 4G rollout is just 2x10Mhz of B20...
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  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    d123 wrote: »
    You realise that this thread is only about roaming in the USA?

    I provided the answers the OP needs in post #9.
    Ask yourself what your rambling rubbish has to do with that...

    This is the third time I have had to highlight your reading comprehension abilities to you. When you engage on topics outside that which the OP is asking, you should expect a reply accordingly.


    Oh, and by the way, you probably really should go and read up a bit more if you think Vodafone's 4G rollout is just 2x10Mhz of B20...

    I've never stated the Mhz - again, you keep making assumptions. I've simply stated they have limited LTE spectrum on which to create a successful network. When they manage to provide LTE outside of major cities, let me know.

    Currently, with the sole exception of EE, the state of mobile affairs in the UK is laughable.
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