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  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    pappa_golf wrote: »
    no its not!


    the OP asked a SPECIFIC question , and an answer was given , you on the other hand wandered off at a tangent .


    I am still awaiting your written report to substantiate your previous claim


    "Bad advice!

    The poor plug fitted simply identifies the product as substandard Chinese crap but the real problem is the badly designed internal charging circuitry, which is simply not good enough to charge Li-on cells correctly and safely. "


    please link to this?

    Read on MacDuff

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/consumer-advocate-warns-hoverboards-may-catch-fire-if-batteries-are-overcharged/news-story/55f11b0a526f44e8cfeb7b7cd057cfe0
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  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    Fightsback wrote: »



    yes read:


    "Consumer advocate warns ‘hoverboards’ may catch fire if batteries are overcharged"


    and the advice


    "Don’t put it on to charge and forget about it. It is important to unplug the device from the wall socket when fully charged.”




    now , lets go back to the OPs original question:


    I haven't used it enough to warrant a 2nd charge but last time it charged I watched it the whole time and unplugged it as soon as the light changed on the charger unit (it wasn't warm or anything).
    I understand the risks surround charging it, mainly overcharging but intend to be very cautious of this."




    well off on a tangent arnt you?
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  • Rubidium
    Rubidium Posts: 663 Forumite
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    no its not!


    the OP asked a SPECIFIC question , and an answer was given , you on the other hand wandered off at a tangent .


    I am still awaiting your written report to substantiate your previous claim


    "Bad advice!

    The poor plug fitted simply identifies the product as substandard Chinese crap but the real problem is the badly designed internal charging circuitry, which is simply not good enough to charge Li-on cells correctly and safely. "


    please link to this?

    There is no point discussing this with anyone who thinks that the unfused poor quality plug is the problem.

    The power unit does not explode/catch fire does it.

    Li-on cells need properly designed charging circuitry to ensure that the cells are not overcharged.

    The OP states that there are warnings printed on the PSU about not overcharging but properly designed charger internal to the 'Hoverboard' will not allow the cells to be overcharged!

    Got it yet, or are you just trolling.

    No links required for an intelligent engineer who actually understands the problem. Your comments are simply unhelpful and could be dangerous.
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    cameltoe wrote: »
    There is no point discussing this with anyone who thinks that the unfused poor quality plug is the problem.

    The power unit does not explode/catch fire does it.

    Li-on cells need properly designed charging circuitry to ensure that the cells are not overcharged.

    The OP states that there are warnings printed on the PSU about not overcharging but properly designed charger internal to the 'Hoverboard' will not allow the cells to be overcharged!

    Got it yet, or are you just trolling.

    No links required for an intelligent engineer who actually understands the problem. Your comments are simply unhelpful and could be dangerous.




    trolls wander off at a tangent , posters answer a direct question .




    so , changing the lead / plug to a quality UK one makes the item "more" dangerous?
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  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    pappa_golf wrote: »
    well off on a tangent arnt you?

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  • Lumstorm
    Lumstorm Posts: 242 Forumite
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    so , changing the lead / plug to a quality UK one makes the item "more" dangerous?

    No it just doesn't solve the problem with the dodgy charging circuit that some units seem to have. As I said earlier I have plenty of unfused devices with Japanese and American plugs and their perfectly fine.

    On a side note depending who fits the plug it could make it more dangerous that why everything in the UK comes with a fitted plug now due to people badly fitting plugs with 13amp fuses. I have seen some horrors in the past with people not cutting wires or insulation to the right length and exposed wires fixed with electrical tape.
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    who said (categorically) that the charging circuit is faulty , even in that Australian link (that gives caution) , it does not say the circuit is faulty?
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  • Lumstorm
    Lumstorm Posts: 242 Forumite
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    Anything with a rechargeable battery should have a safety cut off that stops charging when the battery is full the fact that overcharging appears to an issue would suggest they don't have a working overcharge protection.

    That assumption may be wrong like your diagnosis in your second post where you worked out the issue from a example picture of a plug that the op said was similar to theirs.
  • spud17
    spud17 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
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    Fightsback wrote: »
    ..........Hmmm..... I'm wondering if Pappa Golf is an alias.

    I'm rarely on here these days, but I had him sussed days ago! :D
    It's certainly a unique posting style.
    Move along, nothing to see.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    spud17 wrote: »
    I'm rarely on here these days, but I had him sussed days ago! :D
    It's certainly a unique posting style.

    Echo foxtrot perhaps ? ;):)
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
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