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  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    edited 4 December 2015 at 5:10PM
    pappa_golf wrote: »
    we can sit here all day moaning about the quality of parts used

    When one is looking like a piece of burnt toast and are surrounded by the smoking ruins of one's house and contents I actually won't take any pleasure in saying I told you so, well maybe a bit.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • I would suspect indeed that the problem goes well beyond the absence of a fuse in the plug or whether the plug complies with the standards.

    After all for decades the UK existed using round pin plugs and sockets (13A, 5A and 2amp) and none of these plugs have fuses in them.
    Indeed these are still in daily use in my house.
  • Rubidium
    Rubidium Posts: 663 Forumite
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    we can sit here all day moaning about the quality of parts used


    the OP in there opening comments:


    "(Please no comments about it being bad buying from China, illegal to ride in public etc.etc. I'm just wanting to know if the fuse in the plug is a major risk factor if it can be reduced alongside careful charging by buying a new plug and lead).






    OP , cut the plug off , fit a quality new plug with the correct fuse fitted ,


    topic closed!

    You are simply showing that you do not understand the problem and your advice is just plain wrong and should be ignored.

    If that is the limit of you knowledge on this subject then you should not be giving advice as some readers may be stupid enough to follow it and think that theirs is now safe.

    Trading standards officers are not engineers and do not understand how electronic circuits work and if they have been designed correctly to prevent overcharging etc. but they can identify a non British standard plug.

    Fitting a good quality plug will not prevent the cells in the 'Hoverboard' from exploding and causing a fire.

    The real problem is the charging circuitry and the internal cells not the charger unit.
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    Fightsback wrote: »
    When one is looking like a piece of burnt toast and are surrounded by the smoking ruins of one's house and contents I actually won't take any pleasure in saying I told you so, well maybe a bit.






    and , would not a suitable fuse assist in this matter? , the OP has stated that they ARE going to use this item , and queried the plug fitted as standard , advice has been given to "attempt" to make the item safer .


    the OPs question has been answered , the QUESTION they asked , has been answered , and if you read their post ""(Please no comments about it being bad buying from China, illegal to ride in public etc.etc. I'm just wanting to know if the fuse in the plug is a major risk factor if it can be reduced alongside careful charging by buying a new plug and lead)."


    every other poster has not answered the OPs question , but instead done what they asked NOT to do
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  • pappa_golf
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    cameltoe wrote: »
    You are simply showing that you do not understand the problem and your advice is just plain wrong and should be ignored.

    If that is the limit of you knowledge on this subject then you should not be giving advice as some readers may be stupid enough to follow it and think that theirs is now safe.

    Trading standards officers are not engineers and do not understand how electronic circuits work and if they have been designed correctly to prevent overcharging etc. but they can identify a non British standard plug.

    Fitting a good quality plug will not prevent the cells in the 'Hoverboard' from exploding and causing a fire.

    The real problem is the charging circuitry and the internal cells not the charger unit.




    OP:


    " I'm just wanting to know if the fuse in the plug is a major risk factor if it can be reduced "




    answer:


    yes fitting a quality UK plug with the correct fuse would help here.
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  • Rubidium
    Rubidium Posts: 663 Forumite
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    OP:


    " I'm just wanting to know if the fuse in the plug is a major risk factor if it can be reduced "




    answer:


    yes fitting a quality UK plug with the correct fuse would help here.

    Pretty Polly but your technical knowledge is zilch and your so called advice should be ignored.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    edited 4 December 2015 at 5:33PM
    pappa_golf wrote: »
    and , would not a suitable fuse assist in this matter?

    No, it won't.

    People at Boeing who are far more knowledge than you have made mistakes with Lithium ion batteries. A fire in a lithium battery is a chemical reaction and nothing to do with having the mains plug fused.

    And for goodness sake please sort out the faulty carriage return on your PC as you are taking up more screen space than is necessary. Hmmm..... I'm wondering if Pappa Golf is an alias.

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  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    OP , throw the dammed thing away , other posters say so:rotfl:
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  • Rubidium
    Rubidium Posts: 663 Forumite
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    OP , throw the dammed thing away , other posters say so:rotfl:

    Is that the closest that we are going to get to an admission that you simply don't understand this problem and are giving bad advice!
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    cameltoe wrote: »
    Is that the closest that we are going to get to an admission that you simply don't understand this problem and are giving bad advice!


    no its not!


    the OP asked a SPECIFIC question , and an answer was given , you on the other hand wandered off at a tangent .


    I am still awaiting your written report to substantiate your previous claim


    "Bad advice!

    The poor plug fitted simply identifies the product as substandard Chinese crap but the real problem is the badly designed internal charging circuitry, which is simply not good enough to charge Li-on cells correctly and safely. "


    please link to this?
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