Women who keep their married name YEARS after the divorce.

mumps

This thread keeps reminding me of the !!!! Emery Show, I think that was the name. He used to do sketches and he did one where he dressed up as a woman and a reporter would stop to interview him and call Mrs or Madam or something and he would coyly say "Miss". I can't get it out of my head now. I think the fever's back.

Pollycat

mumps wrote: »

This thread keeps reminding me of the !!!! Emery Show, I think that was the name. He used to do sketches and he did one where he dressed up as a woman and a reporter would stop to interview him and call Mrs or Madam or something and he would coyly say "Miss". I can't get it out of my head now. I think the fever's back.

Ooooh, you are awful - but I like you. :rotfl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLRZzukcJc

mumps

Pollycat wrote: »

Ooooh, you are awful - but I like you. :rotfl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLRZzukcJc

How annoying is censorship? For anyone who doesn't remember him his first name was a perfectly normal, well recognised diminutive of the name Richard.

I had forgotten the Ooooh you are awful bit, now I have another bit stuck in my head. :o

fierystormcloud

LOL at the system censoring the man's name di-k. WTH? :rotfl: It also censors the word fe-kless, why I don't know!

I have to agree with companies not favouring (youngish) women of child bearing age; that is 100% true. Maybe not if it's for a checkout operator at Asda, or to stack shelves at Tesco. But you will be discriminated against if it's a corporate job where you'd climb the company ladder, or a professional job.

Like it or not, you will certainly come second place - if you're in your 20s and childless - to a woman who is in her mid 30s (or even in her 40s,) if she has had kids already. They don't want the risk of you running off several times on maternity leave, at the expense of the company. I have actually known several women who got 'decent' jobs with perks and good maternity leave, who got pregnant as soon as they knew they would be fully covered for leave.

I have to say though, being a Miss or a Mrs makes no odds. As someone said much earlier in the thread; regardless of your title or relationship status, a 20-something woman with no children, could well be bogging off for X amount of years on maternity leave within a year or 3!

Not fair and not right I agree, but some companies and some employers are quite prejudiced against 20 something childless women; maybe even early 30-somethings in some cases. (If they are childless.) I have heard a number of 'bosses' saying (in the past) that they won't employ women who could potentially have children soon. Including Alan Sugar. This article is 7 years old, but there has been no evidence (that I have seen) since, that suggests he thinks any differently now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513264/Sir-Alan-Sugar-Why-I-think-twice-employing-woman.html

There is also an article here about how female bosses aren't keen on women of child bearing age too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2111709/Females-reluctant-hire-women-children-child-bearing-age.html

And another story...

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/aug/12/managers-avoid-hiring-younger-women-maternity-leave

And another.......

http://www.management-issues.com/news/2803/bosses-reluctant-to-employ-women-of-childbearing-age/

There are loads. The main reason for all the prejudice seems to be what Alan Sugar said, 'Everything has gone too far. We have maternity laws where people are entitled to too much.'

Like I said, it's not fair, but it does happen; and it happens a lot.

missbiggles1

lush_walrus wrote: »

To be honest I can't think of a circumstance where I would find it inacceptable for my title not to be used. What would be an example?

Sorry, you've lost me in a welter of negatives - could you clarify what you mean?

Missus_Hyde

mumps wrote: »

This thread keeps reminding me of the !!!! Emery Show, I think that was the name. He used to do sketches and he did one where he dressed up as a woman and a reporter would stop to interview him and call Mrs or Madam or something and he would coyly say "Miss". I can't get it out of my head now. I think the fever's back.

This is one the sketches, whereby the reporter addresses D i c k Emery as Madam, to be told tersely "Miss!"

http://youtu.be/97aB71F-430

Happy days!:rotfl:

lush_walrus

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Sorry, you've lost me in a welter of negatives - could you clarify what you mean?

Ok, to put it in another way. If it is acceptable to introduce without a title. When are you referring to where a title would be required in lieu of a fore and surname. I guess my point is we are discussing an antiquated titling system which in my experience is rarely used.

Following on from that as I can not recall a recent example I was asking if you had one. There is a very strong chance that as it is meaningless for me I wouldn't have even noticed so I thought as someone who does you may have examples for me.

mumps

Missus_Hyde wrote: »

This is one the sketches, whereby the reporter addresses D i c k Emery as Madam, to be told tersely "Miss!"

http://youtu.be/97aB71F-430

Happy days!:rotfl:

Oh my goodness, PC really didn't exist did it.

Jagraf

I worry more about the type of baked beans I buy than what anyone calls me. I'm happy with first name, surname, any title at all - miss, Mrs, Ms. I don't relate it to anything and I don't care if they get my name wrong. I'm happy to have the same name as the ex, his wife., my daughter. And of course many of the population who I have never been related to. If people want to judge me based on my perceived marital status that's their problem, they will also judge me on my shoes.

I wouldn't waste the energy as a woman trying to convince society otherwise, there are much bigger things to worry about.

missbiggles1

lush_walrus wrote: »

Ok, to put it in another way. If it is acceptable to introduce without a title. When are you referring to where a title would be required in lieu of a fore and surname. I guess my point is we are discussing an antiquated titling system which in my experience is rarely used.

Following on from that as I can not recall a recent example I was asking if you had one. There is a very strong chance that as it is meaningless for me I wouldn't have even noticed so I thought as someone who does you may have examples for me.

Using my example of introducing yourself ("Hello, I'm Mary Smith"), if the person you've introduced yourself to wants to address you directly, unless they give you a title "Well, Ms Smith.." they can only use your first name because, obviously they can't say "Well Mary Smith..." (unless you're Dr Who, of course.;)