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UKCPS ticket for leaving retail park

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  • catfunt
    catfunt Posts: 624 Forumite
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    CAB are completely ignorant when it comes to matters private parking.

    If you have a PCN and go to them, they will usually recommend you just pay it!!

    There was a thread recently (cant remember if it was in this forum or not, think it was another one) when certain questions were asked by members from here to test them, and they failed miserably.
  • paul2louise
    paul2louise Posts: 2,564 Forumite
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    I havent got a pcn, but if i do get one from them then i still am going to challenge it. I wanted to try the "I am sorry" approach but want more to try the "i wont back down" "prove it" approach. i dont think i can sit and wait and do nothing.
  • Question. How do they prove a driver left site and not just the passenger/s
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    And why didn't they mitigate their loss?
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • paul2louise
    paul2louise Posts: 2,564 Forumite
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    edited 26 November 2015 at 3:18PM
    Question. How do they prove a driver left site and not just the passenger/s

    Never thought of that :beer:

    Might get one of those dolls that ladies get so that u not a lone driver and leave it in the car ha ha
  • Question. How do they prove a driver left site and not just the passenger/s
    We have seen cases where a parking charge has been issued specifically for a passenger leaving the site. That wouldn't fly at all, as the driver cannot be responsible for the conduct of people who happened to travel there in the same vehicle. As for proof, while there's probably no photographic evidence (and there doesn't need to be), it would be interesting to force the parking bod to come to court and swear that they saw person X get out of the car and leave the "site". Also, "site" is never properly defined on any signage, so how does one know if one is leaving the designated area. There are so many pitfalls to this kind of charge, that court is highly unlikely.
  • The appeal letter has come back rejected.
    My husband wants to just pay it as he can see it is upsetting me.
    I do feel sick.
    They give me the option to appeal to the IAS.
    I just don't think I am strong enough at the moment to cope with this.
    It will worry me over Christmas
    I am sorry if I don't feel like the fight.

    I really appreciate the support and maybe I might feel like fighting tomorrow
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,750 Forumite
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    edited 19 December 2015 at 1:22PM
    Sorry you're not feeling too good.

    The opinions of regulars on whether or not to appeal to the IAS are split. Where there is no division is in the fact that fewer than 20% of appeals are ever successful at the IAS. So you may feel you don't have the appetite for researching and developing an appeal to IAS. Your alternative then is to ignore anything else that comes your way (a series of debt collector letters are likely to follow - but they would anyway if you lost at the IAS and didn't pay). The only things not to ignore would be a Letter Before Claim (sent by UKCPS) or real court papers.

    UKCPS are mildly litigious (usually in parking in disabled bays without a blue badge - that's their 'speciality'), but you shouldn't be panicked by this. If it did happen, you could settle at any time right up to the court room steps.

    I'm not trying to influence you one way or the other, just laying out the options.

    See what tomorrow brings.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,539 Forumite
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    I haven't got time to post a full reply, but seriously don't worry about this, don't let it worry you. It's not an issue and can easily be dealt with. Trying to panic you and get you to worry is all a part of the pressure tactics.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,539 Forumite
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    Question: where is this retail park? And do you know who owns it? (Ie savills)
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
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