A40 London New Average Speed Cameras?

matttye

Iceweasel wrote: »

Oh my God - you need to know when to shut up. Did no-one ever tell you that "when you are in a hole stop digging"?

You give the distinct impression that you feel that you can pick and choose what rules to follow.

Not only are you continually telling us how you broke the law and are justifying it - now you tell us that you were doing it when tired.

I often drive up the M6 through Cumbria in the 'wee small hours' with hardly another vehicle in sight either in front or behind.

If I was caught speeding by any means at all, I would not try to lessen the 'crime' by pleading that there was no-one around.

No-one can choose when to obey the law or not.

Speeding has nothing to do with the situation being dangerous or not depending on the time of day.

I suggest that you write to your MP asking him to propose a bill to suspend speed limits when the roads are deserted.

Speeding in built up traffic / pedestrian areas is treated as an aggravating feature by the sentencing court, so speeding on an empty motorway at night would be relevant in the sense that it wouldn't be treated as an aggravating feature, whereas speeding through town would.

BykerSands

matttye wrote: »

Speeding in built up traffic / pedestrian areas is treated as an aggravating feature by the sentencing court, so speeding on an empty motorway at night would be relevant in the sense that it wouldn't be treated as an aggravating feature, whereas speeding through town would.

What the guidelines actually say are high level of traffic or pedestrians and location such as near to a school. Yet you have chosen speeding through an empty town at night an aggravating factor.

matttye

BykerSands wrote: »

What the guidelines actually say are high level of traffic or pedestrians and location such as near to a school. Yet you have chosen speeding through an empty town at night an aggravating factor.

I obviously wasn't clear enough; I meant speeding through town when it is built up with traffic and/or pedestrians.

BykerSands

matttye wrote: »

I obviously wasn't clear enough; I meant speeding through town when it is built up with traffic and/or pedestrians.

It's hardly relevant and even without traffic or pedestrians a town would still be a built up area.

matttye

BykerSands wrote: »

It's hardly relevant and even without traffic or pedestrians a town would still be a built up area.

But not built up with traffic or pedestrians

BykerSands

matttye wrote: »

But not built up with traffic or pedestrians

Again irrelevant.

matttye

BykerSands wrote: »

Again irrelevant.

You said it yourself:

"What the guidelines actually say are high level of traffic or pedestrians and location such as near to a school."

High level of traffic or pedestrians is an aggravating feature.

BykerSands

matttye wrote: »

You said it yourself:

"What the guidelines actually say are high level of traffic or pedestrians and location such as near to a school."

High level of traffic or pedestrians is an aggravating feature.

I know what they say, just a shame you didn't before it was made clear to you. And to think the interest of justice lies in your hands. Unbelievable Jeff.

matttye

BykerSands wrote: »

I know what they say, just a shame you didn't before it was made clear to you. And to think the interest of justice lies in your hands. Unbelievable Jeff.

What is wrong with the following statement (bearing in mind this is the first thing I said on this thread):

"Speeding in built up traffic / pedestrian areas is treated as an aggravating feature by the sentencing court"

???

You didn't have to point out anything to me, you just decided to be a pedant with a bee in his bonnet about something.

BykerSands

matttye wrote: »

What is wrong with the following statement (bearing in mind this is the first thing I said on this thread):

"Speeding in built up traffic / pedestrian areas is treated as an aggravating feature by the sentencing court"

???

You didn't have to point out anything to me, you just decided to be a pedant with a bee in his bonnet about something.

You have to love the ASBO brigade who demand a solicitor now and get sent a legal advisor.