Vent at morrisons

Edwood_Woodwood

What a load of old rubbish!

The OP is an adult and says they were buying the item to carve pumpkins that night with their grandaughter, so obviously taking part in the activity.

The item states adult supervision required.

The OP's circumstances satisfied this requirement.

The world has gone mad.

Gers

JReacher1 wrote: »

I believe you can't buy alcohol if the person serving you thinks it's for someone underage.

I imagine the server thought this was for the child who was with you so correctly followed the right procedure.

What is ridiculous is the fact the product is clearly aimed at children but children are too young to buy it.

It IS legal for someone over legal age to buy and give alcohol to someone else over the age of four to drink at home!

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts/alcohol-and-the-law/the-law-on-alcohol-and-under-18s

I can see why two different parts of the legislation are in conflict, however a retailer refusing to sell alcohol is a 'right' and not a 'requirement' under law.

As for the pumpkin thing... words fail me too.

pendragon_arther

Interpretation of rules is the key. Staff training is obviously flawed. Brain transplant required.

RichardD1970

pendragon_arther wrote: »

Interpretation of rules is the key. Staff training is obviously flawed. Brain transplant required.

No really, most till systems flag up restricted items automatically and the operator has to then follow procedure or risk being sacked.

But hey, they're only shop workers so they must all be thick, right?.

esuhl

Gers wrote: »

It IS legal for someone over legal age to buy and give alcohol to someone else over the age of four to drink at home!

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts/alcohol-and-the-law/the-law-on-alcohol-and-under-18s

Good grief! That would be madness! No -- you have to be at least FIVE to drink alcohol. No one wants to see a drunk four year old!

However, I don't think it's legal to buy alcohol for someone who is under 18. So, you can buy alcohol for yourself, and then let a 5 year old have some at home. But you can't legally buy the alcohol for the 5 year old to drink. If that makes sense... :-/

Anyway, booze, knives or whatever -- it's ridiculous that the presence of a minor should influence an otherwise legal sale.

daytona0

pendragon_arther wrote: »

Interpretation of rules is the key. Staff training is obviously flawed. Brain transplant required.

You aren't employed to "interpret" the rules, ESPECIALLY when they relate to politically hot topics such as alcohol, smoking and selling knives. You follow the procedures in place and shift the liability to the employer.

If the system says no then you say no. If it says maybe then you say yes (unless the customer is an !!!!). If it says yes then you say yes. Simple as!

Edwood_Woodwood

daytona0 wrote: »

If the system says no then you say no. If it says maybe then you say yes (unless the customer is an !!!!). If it says yes then you say yes. Simple as!

Computer says noooo:D

pendragon_arther

RichardD1970 wrote: »

No really, most till systems flag up restricted items automatically and the operator has to then follow procedure or risk being sacked.

But hey, they're only shop workers so they must all be thick, right?.

And the procedure is exactly what? Check the age of the purchaser? Ask a pensioner for proof of age? Come off it for Christ's sakes.

Why do you think all shop workers are thick? I certainly don't and never suggested they are. Right? Don't put words into other people's mouths.

edgex

GwylimT wrote: »

Theres quite clearly a knife in the packet! Referred to as a carving saw, it doesn't say the item is suitable for eight year olds just that an eight year old can use it with supervision, just like any other knife.

My five year old uses steak knifes, I don't expect her to be able to buy one.

that carving saw looks very plasticky!

nothing on the product page about it being a knife or blade;

Safety Warning:
Warnings
Before first use, remove all packaging. Wash in warm soapy water, using a mild detergent, and dry immediately with a soft cloth. Not suitable for use in a dishwasher.
Caution! Not suitable for young children due to sharp functional point. Adult supervision required. Children should be at least 8 years of age to use tools. Please retain this information for future reference.

marliepanda

It doesn't matter what it looks like, it's how it's noted in the system. When I worked at marks and spencer way back when we had some really strange things pop up as age restricted which had vague connections to actual restricted items.

OP, did the child hand the kit to the cashier, or did the child attempt to pay? This is about 8 years ago now but we were told if an adult for example said 'here give the lady the money!' And there was alcohol in a big weekly shop we had to refuse it as 'the child' was then paying for the item.

Yes it seems totally daft, but we were told it was gross misconduct to continue. Faced with losing my job or winding a customer up, I know what I would do.