MSE News: 1.2m UK vehicles to be 'corrected' in Volkswagen emissions scandal

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Volkswagen says it will contact affected UK customers 'step-by-step'...

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1.2m UK vehicles to be 'corrected' in Volkswagen emissions scandal




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burlington6

They mentioned VW commercial vehicles on the news.

Seeing as it makes no difference to the ved rate, I'll be surprised if anyone bothers

footyguy

burlington6 wrote: »

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Seeing as it makes no difference to the ved rate, I'll be surprised if anyone bothers

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Though it might be tempting to keep driving, failure to respond to a recall notice can lead not only to a driving ban but to a fine of up to £2,500. It can also affect any future insurance claim you make ....

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/24/how-the-volkswagen-clean-diesel-scandal-affects-you-5405435/

Hintza

footyguy wrote: »

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/24/how-the-volkswagen-clean-diesel-scandal-affects-you-5405435/

You took that as gospel?

footyguy

some have voiced fears that these repairs may result in reduced fuel efficiency and increased CO2 emissions, which may increase the Vehicle Excise Duty motorists have to pay.

Whilst this is a concern, until we know the technical details of the revision to be made, we cannot know for sure.
Presumably it will be a recalibration.

As I understand it, the main issue is that the VWs affected use a urea based chemical known as 'AdBlue' that is used to treat the exhaust fumes, to make them less toxic in the atmosphere.
However, the chemical is not cheap. My neighbourt told me the Audi dealer charges £75 to refill the Adblue chamber.

Currently, the Adblue is only injected when the vehicle is under specific test conditions (this is why it has become known as a defeat function). The current container full lasts the length of the service interval with the existing calibration. If the calibration is now changed to use the Adblue in all driveing, it will need refilling much more often.

Concerns have also been raised that the scandal may devalue affected vehicles.

If my synopsis is correct (even if that is just part of the story), then the running cost of the vehicle will be significantly increased, which can only lead to a lower resale value, imho.

stator

Would a car fail it's MOT based on the emissions? (Assuming the MOT tester can avoid the hack somehow)

footyguy

Hintza wrote: »

You took that as gospel?

No, but the government website says something similar

You’re legally responsible for making sure that your vehicle is:

• kept in a safe condition
• safe to drive whenever you drive it

If you don’t get your vehicle inspected and fixed, you could:

• affect any insurance claim you make
• put yourself and others at serious risk

You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle in a dangerous condition.

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-recalls-and-faults/recalled-vehicles-parts-accessories

footyguy

stator wrote: »

Would a car fail it's MOT based on the emissions? (Assuming the MOT tester can avoid the hack somehow)

The MOT uses a defined test procedure - a much simpler one than is used to gain certification of the vehicle.

If the vehicle can pass the certification test, I'm sure it'll pass the MOT

RichardD1970

You’re legally responsible for making sure that your vehicle is:

• kept in a safe condition
  
• safe to drive whenever you drive it

If you don’t get your vehicle inspected and fixed, you could:

• affect any insurance claim you make
• put yourself and others at serious risk

You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle in a dangerous condition.

As far as I'm aware the issue doesn't affect the safety of the vehicle so the above is irrelevant.

footyguy

RichardD1970 wrote: »

As far as I'm aware the issue doesn't affect the safety of the vehicle so the above is irrelevant.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see if a safety recall is issued, but the indications are that there be one, imo.
(although the telegraph is now reporting otherwise:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/11899049/What-happens-if-my-VW-car-has-emissions-cheating-software.html

But as that report also says:

The Department for Transport would not comment on whether UK motorists would be forced to get their cars fixed, saying only that it “cannot elaborate on hypothetical situations”.

)

Johno100

footyguy wrote: »

I suppose we'll have to wait and see if a safety recall is issued, but the indications are that there be one, imo

There's no safety issue involved, so it can't be a safety recall.