UK Parking Patrol Office Ltd Newcastle Airport

Herzlos

I'm not sure. Do they need to refer you to the ICO?

You could reply stating you are not asking for their legal opinion; you are asking them to justify why they are giving out data when reasonable cause was not demonstrated, due to the fact it's clearly not legal. You're telling them outright that the parking enforcement is not lawful; even UKPPOs behaviour indicates that it isn't lawful (going for small claim route rather than magistrate).

You could also offer to invite them to join UKPPO in court should they try it on. Or ask them what to do when your court outcome is that it wasn't lawful?

You're probably stuck pestering your MP and the ICO, whilst trying to goad UKPPO into taking you to court. It's unlikely they will as they know they'll lose, so I'm not sure if it's worth trying to play gullible to see if they think you are an easy target.

bazster

MPs often take weeks to reply.

Coupon-mad

keithlml wrote: »

Just got a letter from a debt collection agency saying 10 days to pay £160 or court proceedings??
Wasn't expecting that.

You weren't? LOL. Of course - that's part of the letter chain we thought you'd already looked into and were ready to ignore. Please let's not discuss the letter chain!! YAWN!! Refer to the NEWBIES thread post #4 about them, please, nothing about the letters please, no links to DRPLus website, no quotes from the letters chain.

That letter chain is your proof that this isn't a bylaws ticket - you do understand why? You show it to the BPA but you have to explain it right.

keithlml wrote: »

No ZZPS email address. Demand is from https://www.debtrecovery.co.uk with a Collections Manager named Sarah Connor no less
The debt is now £159.99 and looks very official.???? But it does state : we will recommend to the creditor that court action should be taken.

Come on, stop reading that drivel and think...why can't they take it to the county court? What is it I explained to you to say to the BPA & DVLA, did you understand why I said 'it's either one or the other'? This is your PROOF it's not a PCN issued under any bylaw.

.debtrecovery.co... give me to the 17th to pay

No, they really didn't. DO NOT even THINK about paying or contacting them.

Ask Peter Beasley at the BPA (if he's the one who fobbed you off) to please refer the matter to Gemma Dorans who is already considering this exact complaint and attach a copy of the letter from DRPlus - and explain why that proves it's not a PCN issued under bylaws. Stop bothering the DVLA about it - this is a BPA complaint at this point and any other complaints are sidetracking you.

Astonished you hadn't read any other UKPPO threads and sussed the letter chain to expect. But please no more about that stupid letter or the next one or the next one. Pretty please.

keithlml

I have asked Peter Beasley BPA to tell me how to now apply for POPLA. No reply yet? Is this still worth doing?
Also I have asked all the questions related to me via forum members about the illegality of providing my details wether in or out if the bye laws to both DVLA and BPA.
I will hit the BPA again tomorrow with the fact again that it is not a bye law issue.
I see the civil court deference and will relate that to the BPA also.
I will also try the Gemma Dorans route. Thanks for that as I am sure DVLA have washed their hands of this.

Keep you posted.

ManxRed

You'd have to commit genocide to get barred from the DVLA Data-Protection-Breach-A-Go-Go service.

Coupon-mad

keithlml wrote: »

I have asked Peter Beasley BPA to tell me how to now apply for POPLA. No reply yet? Is this still worth doing?

No because that's not the point and the real complaint about these not being bylaws tickets, is with Gemma Dorans at the BPA.

keithlml

Coupon Mad
Hello. I am confused as you said in post117 that debt recovery via county court was the give away.Mydebt collection letter mentions civil court.
Is that not the give away?

bazster

Civil court, county court, it's the same thing. CM's point is that if this were a byelaws ticket they would be threatening to have you prosecuted at the magistrates court - a criminal court - not (vaguely) threatening to sue you in a county/civil court.

I disagree with CM about the complaints. The BPA is a waste of space, it's your MP you need to be getting through to now with a view to a possible escalation to the Parliamentary Ombudsman.

bazster

UKPPO has now left the BPA so that avenue is a dead duck.

Umkomaas

bazster wrote: »

UKPPO has now left the BPA so that avenue is a dead duck.

I wonder what the BPA think about that after defending to the hilt UKPPO's rights to issue dodgy tickets at NIAL.