Please help!! 20+ parking tickets

The_Deep

Are you a landlord? I have had three instances where tenants have taken lodgers without my permission. One, a Nigerian girl, sublet to four other students, An Indian couple moved in her sister and brother in law, and two brothers moved in a cousin. I only found out about this when they moved out and I saw the mail. The interloper had even put himself on the electoral toll.


One of my other tenants has a semi permanent live in partner. He started complaining to the managing agents about works that I had asked them to put in hand, (tree pruning).


I thoroughly reference all my tenants before accepting them, insisting on meeting them.


If you rent to one person, you only expect one parson to live in it. Extra people cause more wear and tear, some abuse the parking, and generally create more problems. The OP is a case in point.

Hot_Bring

The_Deep wrote: »

Are you a landlord?

Yes I am. I know some of my tenants have moved in partners without telling me but I'm not remotely bothered just as long as they pay their rent on time and don't cause me any issues.

Herzlos

What does any of that have to do with the OP's issue?

I would say that if you only noticed they were over-let from the mail, that they couldn't have been causing any real problems (though no doubt it messes with your insurance and what not).

NotBothered

She is blatantly parking where she shouldnt!! I have a bike in the communal bike sheds that I NEVER use! Doesnt mean that somebody else can!! It's MINE! I also have a parking permit for a designated space. Just because I am at work all day and my neighbour knows that I wont be using it between 9 and 5 does not entitle them to put their car in it! IT'S MINE!!! I paid for it and if I want it to sit empty, then empty it should stay!!!
When faced with repercussions the OP has very quickly sought an alternative place to park her car legally, so it really wasnt that difficult.

The_Deep

I'm not remotely bothered just as long as they pay their rent on time and don't cause me any issues.


Precisely HB, but the OP is causing issues.


I have advised her to try to settle out of court with the PPC. I have suggested £500, what do others think?

Herzlos

The_Deep wrote: »

I'm not remotely bothered just as long as they pay their rent on time and don't cause me any issues.


Precisely HB, but the OP is causing issues.

No. She isn't. No-one has ever reported an issue. She's been given 20 invalid invoices due to a petty and invalid infraction. These 20 invoices are absolutely no different to if she had parked in her own space without a permit. If she was parking in someone elses space, and said someone *wanted to use the space* she'd be causing issues, but she isn't. There's no indication here at all that any issue has ever been caused by her parking.

I have advised her to try to settle out of court with the PPC. I have suggested £500, what do others think?

That's the single most ridiculous suggestion I've ever seen on here, and is clearly coloured by your dislike for tennants that 'break the rules' and has nothing to do with the case here.

My advice for her is to fight it to court and pay *nothing*. She may wish to go so far as to let herself be hooked with a new ticket to get a POPLA win to help her, but under no circumstances should she offer to settle for anything more than £0.

*IF* she were to suggest to settle, which I'm advising her against, she should be offering to pay the going rate for parking locally, to the tennant who is assigned the space she is using, and nothing to the parking company who are trying to profit from an infraction. If it's not numbered spaces, then I guess she could offer some nominal fee to the landlords for use of the space. Again; nothing goes to the parking company, they have had no loss, and are only involved to try and scam money from the residents.

Why offer £25/ticket? What did the parking company do to deserve it? Average costs are £18/ticket, but realistically since there was no loss none of it is relevant. I bet the PPC didn't even request the address from the DVLA 20 times (OP - If you want to land the PPC in it, you should put in a complaint to the DVLA about your data being accessed, and ask when it was done. If there isn't a fresh request per ticket, they have broken the Data Protection Act, and the DVLA will not be happy).

If these 20 tickets were for overstaying in Asda, or parking in her own space, what would your advice be?


Apologies OP; The Deep generally gives good advice, but is completely biased when it's related to 'bilking', or anything which offends his rights as a landlord, when then completely blinds him to the fact that the invoices are still utterly unenforceable.

Quentin

The_Deep wrote: »

I'm not remotely bothered just as long as they pay their rent on time and don't cause me any issues.


Precisely HB, but the OP is causing issues.


I have advised her to try to settle out of court with the PPC. I have suggested £500, what do others think?

You already gave us your opinion of the OP, and by contacting her with advice like this amounts to bullying/harassment.


She can ignore your posts completely (and not even see them) by clicking on your name next to any of your posts then "user lists" then "add to ignore list". (If you have sent her a PM with this ridiculous "advice" she should report it to MSE)

toddstar

haven't read the entire thread in detail, hopefully i'm not repeating anyone else. if there are lots of empty spaces the landlord could use some common sense (landlords and common sense in the same sentence?). why not ask which residents actually require a permit for parking and only give them out to those who need them.

Herzlos

I'm assuming that's the case - residents are entitled to a space but not all will have requested a permit. So in all likelihood there are more spaces than issued permits.

toddstar

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm assuming that's the case - residents are entitled to a space but not all will have requested a permit. So in all likelihood there are more spaces than issued permits.

yeah, so I wonder why the deeps panties are all twisted up then.