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Please help!! 20+ parking tickets

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  • The_Deep wrote: »
    So, let me get this straight, there is one parking space but two cars, and sometimes you park in someone else's space. So where do they park, or do you not care?

    Many of the apartments do not have cars. I know this because the car park is always almost empty since the parking fines. I park outside on the street as much as I can. If I cannot find an alternate parking space, then I park in the car park, but only in a space which is constantly empty. I check this every evening when I get home from work and every morning when I leave as I need to cross the car park to get out of the building.
  • Thank you for the advice everyone! My only question is, do I have any grounds to appeal the fines? I am not a tenant and do not have a permit.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,820 Forumite
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    Thank you for the advice everyone! My only question is, do I have any grounds to appeal the fines? I am not a tenant and do not have a permit.

    You have all of the usual grounds. It's not a fine - it's an invoice.

    As a contractual charge, you agreed to no contract. As a breach, you cost no loss (no one was denied parking).
    The parking company probably isn't entitled to issue or enforce invoices.
    The signage is always insufficient to form a contract or deterrent.
    As registered keeper you are not liable, as they haven't satisfied the conditions of POFA 2012 (they never do).

    On top of that, as a resident your lease would trump any conditions they claim are in place, but all of the usual points remain in effect.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 10 September 2015 at 3:58PM
    On top of that, as a resident your lease would trump any conditions they claim are in place, but all of the usual points remain in effect.

    Do keep up, the OP is not a resident and does not have a lease. But please do not let this stop you encouraging this massive abuse of others' rights


    It is people like the OP who force Managing agents to engage PPCs
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • ok , no lease , however if the OPs partner was to be named , then the lease (over riding tickets) would trump there claims




    box , ,,, what box?


    never think whilst wearing a box on your head
  • ampersand
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    .....which, all other nonsense aside, brings us back to insisting on lyndsay and partner having to bring partner's landlord out of the woodwork - posts passim.
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    lyndsay, pretty please, again - DO NOT USE THE F - - - WORD , for these speculative, unenforceable invoices:-)

    Have you properly read what c-m wrote yet?
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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    however if the OPs partner was to be named , then the lease (over riding tickets) would trump there claims

    Indeed, Freddy, it is known as doing a Huhne.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Herzlos
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    The_Deep wrote: »
    On top of that, as a resident your lease would trump any conditions they claim are in place, but all of the usual points remain in effect.

    Do keep up, the OP is not a resident and does not have a lease. But please do not let this stop you encouraging this massive abuse of others' rights

    The OP is a resident and the partner has a lease. There is a lease in effect covering the property, and that trumps the parking contract regardless of whos name is where.

    No other rights are being breached - the car isn't prevent anyone else parking.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 10 September 2015 at 7:48PM
    OK, the OP resides there so in those terms she is a resident, but she is not on the lease, may well be there without the consent of the landlord, and is acting in a manner which could cause the tenant to be evicted.

    Her presence may even invalidate the tenant's insurance policy, and there may also be Council Tax issues.

    No other rights are being breached

    Not so, what about the residents in whose spaces she is parking, the landlord, she has not been referenced, and could be anyone, an illegal immigrant, an arsonist, a serial flitter, as far as we know.

    the car isn't prevent anyone else parking.

    Please clarify. If you are saying that by parking her car in someone else's place she is not preventing anyone else parking there, please explain.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    It strikes me that if there is one spacer allocated per dwelling - presumably on the lease? - and you have 2 cars, then irrespective of the PPC charges, unless you can find another resident willing to give you their permit, then you would have a hard job persuading any court that you were justified in flaunting the landowner's terms.

    I am surprised that there are no visitor spaces and can not imagine living in such a restricted area. ( My youngest son live in London and has no parking available at all so he rents a garage. )

    So what I am saying is that you have the present/past problem and you are getting advice on that, but you need a permanent solution to deal with the fact that by right, your dwelling has only 1 parking space and we can't solve that one for you.

    Ultimately you need to consider relocating, I fear.
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