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Please help!! 20+ parking tickets

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  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,802 Forumite
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    Are any of these invoices at the parking company appeal stage? If you can get one of them cancelled via POPLA (if they are BPA), then you can use that in your defence against the rest of them.

    It doesn't matter who is on the lease, or who owns the cars.

    The letter from the debt collector is just an empty threat. Wait for one from the parking company themselves.
  • I'm not sure. I had the original charges on my windscreen. Then several weeks later I received a notice to keeper letter, then an outstanding parking charge notice from parking collection services and lastly a notice of intended court action from debt recovery plus. But if I receive one from the parking company themselves, there's nothing I can do is there? It's far too late to appeal if I don't even have dates or reference numbers to go off and these are dating back to 29th May 2015.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    So, let me get this straight, there is one parking space but two cars, and sometimes you park in someone else's space. So where do they park, or do you not care?

    You are living in rented accommodation without the consent of the landlord, probably contrary to the terms of your partner's lease.

    You have acquired 20 parking tickets.

    I am struggling to see why anyone here should help you
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • ampersand
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    edited 10 September 2015 at 1:43PM
    .......as most of us have been repeating, PTT :-)

    PTLtd work on incentive achemes. Lyndsay, you're making yourself - and your partner is worsening matters by not being ugrently pro-active - an easy target.
    It won't stop unless you both DO what's necessary.

    Also, you don't seem to understand that the parking scumpany ARE the ones who issued the tickets.

    They did this per their incentivised warden, on a site whose landlord is also incentivised to have them stalking there.

    Your partner's landlord would be out of the woodwork quickly enough if rent was late, I'm sure.

    This has to be a sit-down joint project, one night, you and partner working at it together.

    The letters to be watched for are LBCs or MCOL - no, you go and look up these acronyms in the newbies stickies. Increasing knowledge and understanding what you read doesn't arrive with one glance.

    Ignore insinuations from one poster here who has not had sight of your partner's lease.
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  • The_Deep
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    Who's fault is it that the landlord has made himself unavailable? If she cannot contact the landlord to update their circumstances, then who's fault is it?


    I find this difficulty to believe. The tenant, (and the OP is not the tenant, and has no standing), should have signed an AST with the landlord or the landlords agent. If the AST requires it he writes formally asking for permission to sub-let or have his g/f put on a new agreement. This will be at their expense, and the landlordmay ask for references.


    The lease usually states that this should not be unreasonably withheld, but I think that, by her own admission, she has behaved unreasonably.


    I think that, in the circumstances the landlord would be well with his/her rights to ask his tenant to seek alternative accommodation.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Ignore insinuations from one poster here who has not had sight of your partner's lease.


    They are not insinuations Madam, they are reasonable assumptions based on 38 years experience in the property business.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,216 Forumite
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    edited 10 September 2015 at 1:38PM
    Any advice on what I can do, if anything?

    Yes, please read the NEWBIES thread about ignoring Debt Recovery Plus... :)

    Calm down and sit tight. Please don't post with worries about your credit rating or getting a CCJ. The Newbies thread explains why that is a non-issue.
    I'm not sure. I had the original charges on my windscreen. Then several weeks later I received a notice to keeper letter, then an outstanding parking charge notice from parking collection services and lastly a notice of intended court action from debt recovery plus. But if I receive one from the parking company themselves, there's nothing I can do is there? It's far too late to appeal if I don't even have dates or reference numbers to go off and these are dating back to 29th May 2015.

    PCS and DRP (and 'Zenith' which will be the next letter heading) are the same firm, powerless hot air. You haven't got any recent letters from the PPC themselves and if you do, there are ways to defend such claims. The PPC at the moment has referred it to DRP and co., so let it stay there. Do not respond all the time some of the older PCNs are with DRP and Zenith.

    Keep the Notices to Keeper because PCS are utterly useless at getting them any like right, in terms of statutory wording!

    You would be mad to pay or contact them (about ones that are too late to appeal) or offer money or even worry about this right now.

    People have ignored these for a decade and all that's happened is you missed out on POPLA on the first few but ARE in time to appeal for any where the NTK is dated 28 days ago or less. So appeal those ones, as keeper, not saying who was driving. See the NEWBIES thread for the template appeal. Use it for the more recent ones and get a few POPLA wins under your belt, as has already been said.
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  • ampersand
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    Lyndsay, if c-m posts on your Thread - do as she says, please:-)

    c-m wrote and updates all the weapons in the newbies Stickies toolbox.
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  • Hot_Bring
    Hot_Bring Posts: 1,596 Forumite
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Yes, please read the NEWBIES thread about ignoring Debt Recovery Plus... :)

    Calm down and sit tight. Please don't post with worries about your credit rating or getting a CCJ. The Newbies thread explains why that is a non-issue.


    PCS and DRP (and 'Zenith' which will be the next letter heading) are the same firm, powerless hot air. You haven't got any recent letters from the PPC themselves and if you do, there are ways to defend such claims. The PPC at the moment has referred it to DRP and co., so let it stay there. Do not respond all the time some of the older PCNs are with DRP and Zenith.

    Keep the Notices to Keeper because PCS are utterly useless at getting them any like right, in terms of statutory wording!

    You would be mad to pay or contact them (about ones that are too late to appeal) or offer money or even worry about this right now.

    People have ignored these for a decade and all that's happened is you missed out on POPLA on the first few but ARE in time to appeal for any where the NTK is dated 28 days ago or less. So appeal those ones, as keeper, not saying who was driving. See the NEWBIES thread for the template appeal. Use it for the more recent ones and get a few POPLA wins under your belt, as has already been said.

    ^^^^ This, this and thrice this ^^^^

    ..... and don't concern yourself with the comments of the grumpy old property tycoon.
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  • Herzlos
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    I'm not sure. I had the original charges on my windscreen. Then several weeks later I received a notice to keeper letter, then an outstanding parking charge notice from parking collection services and lastly a notice of intended court action from debt recovery plus. But if I receive one from the parking company themselves, there's nothing I can do is there? It's far too late to appeal if I don't even have dates or reference numbers to go off and these are dating back to 29th May 2015.

    It's too late to appeal those ones, so just ignore them until you get genuine (stamped and verified) court papers. If you were to get a new one now, you can appeal properly and get it cancelled. With that cancellation, you can request Alternate Dispute Resolution, on the basis that POPLA has already sided with you in at least 1 instance, and the rest are materially identical. Since you'll be using the same arguments in your court appeal, you'll also be seeking your costs due to their unreasonable nature (as POPLA has already sided with you for those details).

    Are you still parking 2 cars and are they still ticketing you? If they've whitelisted your car (because of the number of tickets ignored) you might need to swap cars so the other one gets a ticket and appeal that. It doesn't actually matter who or which car gets the POPLA reference, but just as long as you can refer to one.

    Even a successful POPLA appeal from a neighbour in the same car park would do.
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