Things you dont say to a woman?

lisa110rry

I wear no makeup, but have been moisturising my face and skin since I was 15. Recently I was mentioning to a colleague that I'm approaching the age when another person who retired from a similar position in my firm was considering part-time, then retrirement. The colleague said "but you are so much younger than [person in similar position] was at your age".

That's a result to me!

indiepanda

Very few people have such perfect skin it isn't improved by wearing a bit of make up.

Men who say they prefer the no make up look tend to mean they don't want to wait hours to go out for a woman to trowel on enough make up to make a clown jealous, not that they'd object to a bit of tinted moisturiser, a flash of mascara and a bit of lip balm.

My boyfriend is just about observant enough to notice when we've gone away together if I've blow dried my hair and spent a bit of time in front of the mirror dabbing at my face so will tell me I look nice - but he's well used to seeing me au naturel as I am quite lazy about bothering with make up (am fortunate to have fairly good skin).

As for what not to say to women... I think men often banter with each other and take the mickey out of each other in a way women just wouldn't do, so men get caught out by how seriously women take jokes about weight etc. Lots of women seem to imagine men only like skinny women... and perhaps some do, but plenty don't mind a bit more flesh.

I am trying to think of the worst things guys came out with when I was internet dating a few years ago.... To be honest it was mainly guys who insisted on going on about sex when we'd not even met that irritated me the most.

Or silly compliments, like "are you a model" - er, how many 40+ models who are 5'4" tall and a bit overweight do you know? Don't insult my intelligence by suggesting I am daft enough to fall for that.

The guys I replied to made it sound like they'd read my profile and liked the sound of my personality as well as my looks - were trying to find common ground etc.

Anyone who sent what was obviously an identikit message sent scattergun to 100 women didn't pique my interest (e.g. the "model" one. To give him credit, I replied saying "do women really fall for that rubbish?", and his next identikit message was "hi, you've got a really nice smile" - which I suppose is plausible if somewhat unoriginal!)

Georgiegirl256

Petra_70 wrote: »

Have to say also that I am always very suspicious of a man who tells his wife/girlfriend that she looks better without make up. The vast majority of women do look better - if not all women - so why do men say this? :huh: I know for a fact that I look better with it, and so does every woman I know, so why would a man say to his woman that she looks better without make up?

Bit strange. :huh:

IMO, I always find men to be much more honest in their opinions than Women.

I'd say men say this to their wives/girlfriends because it is true. I really don't understand why in a committed relationship a man should feel he has to lie just to keep the wife happy? I can't see any logical need for it (unless he's frightened of her), so I'm guessing when he says it, he's telling the truth.

My husband is brutely (in as nice a way as possible of course!) honest. :eek: If I've got bags or dark circles he'll tell me. If I've got a massive spot, he'll tell me. So, if he says I look better without make up then I'd be inclined to believe him.

Petra_70

indiepanda wrote: »

Very few people have such perfect skin it isn't improved by wearing a bit of make up.

Men who say they prefer the no make up look tend to mean they don't want to wait hours to go out for a woman to trowel on enough make up to make a clown jealous, not that they'd object to a bit of tinted moisturiser, a flash of mascara and a bit of lip balm.

My boyfriend is just about observant enough to notice when we've gone away together if I've blow dried my hair and spent a bit of time in front of the mirror dabbing at my face so will tell me I look nice - but he's well used to seeing me au naturel as I am quite lazy about bothering with make up (am fortunate to have fairly good skin).

Hmmm, yes I think I could agree with that. I guess some men may not want their woman caked in it, but I can't believe any man actually thinks their woman looks better without any make up at all.

Even so, it's really up to a woman how much she wants, and shouldn't be dictated to on how much she should wear.

The reason I say I am suspicious of men saying they think their woman looks better with no make up is because I have known men in the past who tell their girlfriend/wife that they don't need make up, when they definitely look better with it, and when the woman went deeper into the reasons why; it turned out it was because he didn't want her looking too attractive in case other men look at her.

A woman I used to know had a brother who was very controlling and made his girlfriend stay at a size 6, and she could never wear make up, because 'only sluts wear make up' he said. So she looked like an anorexic ghost for 3 years. Then when they split, she gained 3 stone, went up to a size 14, and wore the make up she wanted to wear, and she looked soooo much better!

Petra_70

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

IMO, I always find men to be much more honest in their opinions than Women.

I'd say men say this to their wives/girlfriends because it is true. I really don't understand why in a committed relationship a man should feel he has to lie just to keep the wife happy? I can't see any logical need for it (unless he's frightened of her), so I'm guessing when he says it, he's telling the truth.

My husband is brutely (in as nice a way as possible of course!) honest. :eek: If I've got bags or dark circles he'll tell me. If I've got a massive spot, he'll tell me. So, if he says I look better without make up then I'd be inclined to believe him.

I definitely find the exact opposite.

phill99

My favourite chat up line is "Does this cloth smell of chloroform".

Something not to say to a lady is "You don't sweat much for a fat lass do you?"

While in Morrisons a few weeks ago I stopped at the self service salad bar and was deciding whether to buy some salad or not (being a couple of pounds over weight). A woman, probably in her 30's stopped next to me. She had obviously enjoyed a lifelong diet of chips, cakes and chocolate and deep fried mars bars. I turned and said to her "We could both do with a bit more of this", pointing at the salad delights set before us. Well if looks could kill. She didn't say anything, but then didn't need to! At that point I deided to take my leave! (True story).

littlegreenparrot

Don't call a woman or a girl bossy.

Men and boys do it, they are being assertive, or showing leadership skills.

#banbossy

System

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

IMO, I always find men to be much more honest in their opinions than Women.

I'd say men say this to their wives/girlfriends because it is true. I really don't understand why in a committed relationship a man should feel he has to lie just to keep the wife happy? I can't see any logical need for it (unless he's frightened of her), so I'm guessing when he says it, he's telling the truth.

My husband is brutely (in as nice a way as possible of course!) honest. :eek: If I've got bags or dark circles he'll tell me. If I've got a massive spot, he'll tell me. So, if he says I look better without make up then I'd be inclined to believe him.

The reason why some men lie is if we say our woman looks good without make up, they are as you say inclined to believe us so they're not entirely happy being told that

Tropez

Lily-Rose wrote: »

To ANY woman: 'you look BETTER without make up!; (One of my all time pet hates that one. NOBODY, but NOBODY looks better without make up! NOBODY! Yes, some women look fine without it, some look good without it, but nobody looks better without it.)

They just don't.

With beauty being in the eye of the beholder, I'm going to say that some women do look better without makeup on. Some people are more drawn to natural beauty than artificial.

And I see my wife first thing in the morning with no makeup on. She looks fantastic, even with her hair out of place. She looks fine with makeup too but it isn't "better", it's just a bit different.

Fortunately, she never cakes makeup on, so that's good. People who make themselves look like some sort of Tango'd clown-monster are not that attractive to me.

Yeah, so on-topic, don't tell a woman she looks like a Tango'd clown-monster if she's caked on the make-up, unless you're 100% sure that is the look she's going for.

Lunar_Eclipse

Petra_70 wrote: »

You say that, but I bet you rarely see any woman without make up. I agree with what some have said on here that some women may go for the no make up look, but that they do actually have some on; a light touch of tinted moisturizer or foundation, a little mascara, a wee bit of eyeshadow, a subtle hint of lippy.

I think you're probably right. And if I can't tell someone is wearing make up, I probably wouldn't necessarily think they look better without it. What I do think though is that many women who wear heavy make up, would look better without it, in my opinion. The heavy caked on look and I wonder what they're hiding or trying to hide.

I'm just not a fan of a heavily made up face but love that dewy natural look (that is achieved through make up but I've never mastered!) I have always been blessed with great skin, but I have tried to find a foundation (of any description, I use that term lightly) ALL of my adult life that looks natural, ie I can't tell I'm wearing it but my skin looks better. I've failed. None seem to blend perfectly with my skin tone. Maybe it's just me being overly critical, I'm not sure. What I do know is that I must be in a minority of women not using some form of 'base' in their 40's. Friends say I'm lucky I don't need it, but maybe they're lying.

I don't wear (any) make up on a daily basis. Mascara and lip gloss is night out material for me.

DH prefers me/any woman without make up, but especially dislikes lipstick. He detests what he calls *fake*, taking exception to the fact I dye my hair to cover the grey. I refuse to look 10 years older. Especially since he's so handsome: one of those men who just gets better with age. And still wears the same size clothes. How do they do that?