Corbynomics: A Dystopia

setmefree2

Labour's shambles over its key Brexit policy deepened today after deputy leader Tom Watson said the party might seek “permanent” membership of the single market and the customs union. The senior MP changed the line just days after shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer announced that Labour would back temporary membership of both free trade clubs for up to four years after leaving the EU in 2019.

The shifting position by the two shadow Cabinet members follows a bitter war over Brexit policy sparked by shadow chancellor John McDonnell and leader Jeremy Corbyn flatly ruling out staying in the single market after the election.


Mr Watson also agreed that Labour was now the party of “soft Brexit”. Asked on Newsnight if the term reflected the party’s position, he said: “Yes, you have seen Keir Starmer’s statement, we think that being part of the customs union and the single market is important in those transitional times because that is the way you protect jobs and the economy, and it might be a permanent outcome of the negotiations, but we have got to see how those negotiations go.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-deputy-opens-door-to-permanent-single-market-membership-a3624701.html

Malthusian

For Labour MPs and lesser apparatchiks, getting a cushy number in the EU is their only hope of a future which doesn't involve stacking shelves in Tesco. The future as a Labour Party politician looks grim. And the lack of any leadership material means jumping ship to a new centre-left party is a pipe dream. So of course they will do everything they can to suck up to Barnier and co.

It hardly matters at this stage if they lose working class Brexit voters - they were only hanging on to them by the thinnest thread of historic tribal loyalty anyway.

posh*spice

Malthusian wrote: »

For Labour MPs and lesser apparatchiks, getting a cushy number in the EU is their only hope of a future which doesn't involve stacking shelves in Tesco. The future as a Labour Party politician looks grim. And the lack of any leadership material means jumping ship to a new centre-left party is a pipe dream. So of course they will do everything they can to suck up to Barnier and co.

It hardly matters at this stage if they lose working class Brexit voters - they were only hanging on to them by the thinnest thread of historic tribal loyalty anyway.

Yes that is how the kinnocks and mandleson ended up minted.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Once the Tories get the Europe goggles on the red mist descends and they can't help themselves.

Seems as Mrs May's googles are demisting. As has been vindicated for her early stance and comments. Hard Brexit was her call. Wonder why?

Meanwhile Labour make a policy statement that is almost immediately made redundant by the actual events on the ground.

System

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Seems as Mrs May's googles are demisting. As has been vindicated for her early stance and comments. Hard Brexit was her call. Wonder why?

May can do no wrong.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Meanwhile Labour make a policy statement that is almost immediately made redundant by the actual events on the ground.

Corbyn can do no right.

This thread is nothing more than a confirmation bias thread for people who are still receiving counselling due to the trauma they received when the GE exit poll came out.

Fella

ilovehouses wrote: »

This thread is nothing more than a confirmation bias thread for people who are still receiving counselling due to the trauma they received when the GE exit poll came out.

You mean Corbynistas? When they realised he'd lost with less seats than even Kinnock managed? And that every prediction he would lead Labour to a miserable defeat had been correct?

Filo25

ilovehouses wrote: »

May can do no wrong.



Corbyn can do no right.

This thread is nothing more than a confirmation bias thread for people who are still receiving counselling due to the trauma they received when the GE exit poll came out.

I'm no fan of Corbyn but that does appear to be pretty much the case, It takes incredible level of commitment to the cause to convince yourself that Theresa May is doing well at present though.

Filo25

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Seems as Mrs May's googles are demisting. As has been vindicated for her early stance and comments. Hard Brexit was her call. Wonder why?

Meanwhile Labour make a policy statement that is almost immediately made redundant by the actual events on the ground.

To placate the Brexit extremists in the press and her own party, pretty obvious I would have thought.

Fella

Fella wrote: »

If Corbyn finally nails his colours to a non-Brexit, neverending transistion kind of arrangement it will backfire spectactularly. However I don't expect that, he's far far more likely to weasel out of this latest statement the moment he think's it's costing him support & try to con people again that he'd honour the referendum.

Didn't take long haha:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/03/sir-keir-starmer-threatens-block-theresa-mays-brexit-bill-unless/

"Labour in Brexit chaos after Sir Keir Starmer refuses to back Tom Watson over Single Market membership"

setmefree2

Corbynomics?

No Mandleson and Blair's unelected grubby millionaired hands are all over LP policy.

Hard Brexit opponents, let your voices be heard

Lord Mandelson

As politics returns after the August hiatus, pro-Europeans should view the state of the Brexit process with equal measures of concern and optimism. Concern, because it is increasingly clear that the negotiations between the UK government and the European Commission are sinking into a quagmire, with increasing bad blood on both sides.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hard-brexit-opponents-let-your-voices-be-heard-w0wpp5dwh