Corbynomics: A Dystopia

setmefree2

It'll be interesting to see how this works out for them....

Corbyn and Labour backtrack on Brexit

Shadow Brexit Secretary Sir Keir Starmer has called for a post-Brexit arrangement committing the UK to do whatever is required to maintain membership of the Single European Market and Customs Union for up to four years.

Writing in the Observer on Sunday, Starmer said that Labour’s proposed transitional period would avoid a "cliff edge" for the UK economy. Labour would “abide by the common rules” of the SEM and Customs Union. This means accepting the free movement of goods, services, capital and European labour at the expected end of negotiations in March 2019.

His pledge is equivalent to continued EU membership until at least 2023—with the sole difference that the UK would have no say on EU policy. Starmer added that any new relationship with the EU after this transition would also "retain the benefits of the customs union and the single market."

This is tantamount to membership of the EU in all but name. He does not say so openly due to concern over the electoral impact of moving too hastily to reverse the referendum vote. Pro-Brexit commentators have stressed that seven out of 10 Labour constituencies voted leave in the referendum. But Starmer anticipates that this majority is already being eroded by the economic impact of the falling pound and will be reversed later down the line. He therefore made clear that even a four-year transition was a fudge, writing that “for all its merits” it would “be imperfect and prove unsustainable beyond a limited period. It would not provide a durable or acceptable long-term settlement for Britain or the EU.”

With no democratic mandate or even discussion with party members or the wider electorate, Labour and Corbyn are in the process of overturning the Brexit referendum result.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/30/brex-a30.html

This would seem to mean to me that the LP is now the party of the remoaning liberal middle class elites.

setmefree2

Same article.

How damning for a LP with its historical origins.

EU negotiatior Michel Barnier has no reason to accept any conditions placed by the UK, because he knows that Labour’s position is determined by the dominant sections of big business and the City of London that view the Brexit vote as a disaster.

The latest of many U-turns by Corbyn demonstrates that there are no principled differences between left and right within Labour or between Labour and the pro-EU wing of the Tory Party.

Having opposed EU membership for decades while on Labour’s backbenches, as party leader Corbyn campaigned in the referendum for continued EU membership. His switch was dictated by the demands of both big business and the trade union bureaucracy, which acts as Labour’s paymaster and is just as concerned as the City of London with the impact of exit on the profit margins of the banks and major corporations. Starmer stated bluntly that Labour’s position “is a view shared widely by businesses and trade unions,” while Trades Union Congress General Secretary Frances O’Grady joined the likes of leading Blairite, Chukka Ummuna and the architect of New Labour, Peter Mandelson, in praising the shift.

The Financial Times welcomed Labour’s position.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/30/brex-a30.html

setmefree2

So - will Labour lose support as a result of its Brexit gamble?

.string.

Good News for Corbyn:. He will not loose my vote.


Bad News for Corbyn:. He never had it.

cogito

setmefree2 wrote: »

Same article.

How damning for a LP with its historical origins.


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/30/brex-a30.html

I don't recall Corbyn campaigning in the remain camp during the referendum campaign. His silence was in total contrast to his ubiquitousness in the GE campaign.

Oh, and of course the ultra europhile rag, the FT Surprisingly welcomed the announcement.

Fella

Yep Labour have confirmed what was obvious all along: no way in a million years would they deliver Brexit. Corbyn just managed to con enough people into thinking they would to get their votes. It was another area where the Tory campaign was poor as Labour were contradicting themselves nonstop over Brexit even then.

If Corbyn finally nails his colours to a non-Brexit, neverending transistion kind of arrangement it will backfire spectactularly. However I don't expect that, he's far far more likely to weasel out of this latest statement the moment he think's it's costing him support & try to con people again that he'd honour the referendum.

Thrugelmir

Fella wrote: »

Yep Labour have confirmed what was obvious all along: no way in a million years would they deliver Brexit. Corbyn just managed to con enough people into thinking they would to get their votes. It was another area where the Tory campaign was poor as Labour were contradicting themselves nonstop over Brexit even then.

If Corbyn finally nails his colours to a non-Brexit, neverending transistion kind of arrangement it will backfire spectactularly. However I don't expect that, he's far far more likely to weasel out of this latest statement the moment he think's it's costing him support & try to con people again that he'd honour the referendum.

Just makes some news headlies, albeit just temporarily. Without such statements you could almost be forgiven for forgetting there is actually an opposition party in the UK. That many people voted for. Yet endlessly fail in representing.

Malthusian

Fella wrote: »

If Corbyn finally nails his colours to a non-Brexit, neverending transistion kind of arrangement it will backfire spectactularly. However I don't expect that, he's far far more likely to weasel out of this latest statement the moment he think's it's costing him support & try to con people again that he'd honour the referendum.

Corbynists consider the whole Brexit thing an irrelevance as the EU will shortly be swept away by global socialist revolution.

On one level they are rather confused about what to think about Brexit, because on the one hand they love the ideas of nihilculturalism, social contracts and rich Britons paying for impoverished Greeks to retire at 50. On the other hand, they have hated the EU for decades due to its support for free trade and its opposition to Russia. But that is all detail. The important thing is that any confusion will be resolved when the socialist revolution comes and there is no UK, no EU, no borders, just one glorious post-capitalist society.

Fella

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/01/uk-could-permanently-remain-single-market-customs-union-labours/

Labour is now the party of “soft Brexit” and could keep Britain in the European Single Market and Customs Union indefinitely, Tom Watson has admitted.

Mr Watson confirmed Labour is positioning itself as the party of “soft Brexit”

So hot on the heels of the debacle over their lies to students, Labour have now backtracked on their lies to Brexit supporters.

Students & the Brexit-supporting working-class, two of Labour's biggest groups of supporters, both blatantly misled & lied to on the issue that probably mattered most to them.

setmefree2

Fella wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/01/uk-could-permanently-remain-single-market-customs-union-labours/

Labour is now the party of “soft Brexit” and could keep Britain in the European Single Market and Customs Union indefinitely, Tom Watson has admitted.

Mr Watson confirmed Labour is positioning itself as the party of “soft Brexit”

So hot on the heels of the debacle over their lies to students, Labour have now backtracked on their lies to Brexit supporters.

Students & the Brexit-supporting working-class, two of Labour's biggest groups of supporters, both blatantly misled & lied to on the issue that probably mattered most to them.

By "soft brexit" they mean no Brexit. "It might be a permanent outcome of the negotiations".....

They've been nobbled by Blair's £millions.

And yes they are a bunch of liars - it's only 12 weeks since the GE.

Let's watch those polls.