Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Fella

Joeskeppi wrote: »

This sounds very familiar...

Indeed, which is why it shouldn't be coming from somebody who likes to preach about "a new kind of politics".

Jason74

zagubov wrote: »

They don't have to recover. The current government just has to become too toxic to re-elect, Quite fickle, the electorate.;)

True up to a point. But how toxic a government has to be to be "too toxic to re-elect" depends to a large extent on what the alternative looks like. In the current climate, I suspect that there are a heck of a lot of swing voters (or even "wet tories") who would have voted for a Burnham or Cooper led Labour party (even if reluctantly) but would not go near one led by Corbyn.

So the presence of a really rubbish opposition massively raises the level of toxicity that a government can get away with before they become unelectable. If Labour doesn't learn the right lessons from the Corbyn fiasco (and the talk of trying to get another hard left candidate on the ballot suggests they haven't), the Tories will be able to get away with being very toxic indeed.

setmefree2

Ed Balls rules out standing in the General Election

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4431790/Ed-Balls-rules-running-General-Election.html

antrobus

Filo25 wrote: »

Was just looking on the spreadbetting site IG Index and that is pretty close to the market midpoint at present.

Tories 375, Labour 175

Electoral calculus say 392 -170
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

That's based on the polls and a 21 point lead. The last YouGov poll had a 24 point Con lead.

mrginge

What you lot are forgetting is that jezza isn't playing by the same rules as everybody else.

So the rule of having a coherent economic policy is being replaced by the leader must have a beard.
The rule of the leader having a strong, on-message team behind them is out the window, replaced by the leader must know the words to kumbaya.
Finally, any awkward media questions are not allowed and will be responded to with mass hissy fits and foot stomping.

Expect a corbyn victory and remember you heard it here first sheeple.

Filo25

antrobus wrote: »

Electoral calculus say 392 -170
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

That's based on the polls and a 21 point lead. The last YouGov poll had a 24 point Con lead.

I would expect Labour to lose a lot of seats where the Tories were in second last time but the combined Conservative UKIP vote was higher than Labours

davomcdave

Filo25 wrote: »

I would expect Labour to lose a lot of seats where the Tories were in second last time but the combined Conservative UKIP vote was higher than Labours

It's interesting. It looks to me like a lot of voters went from Labour to UKIP and as UKIP becomes irrelevant (why vote to leave the EU when we've already given notice?) they've moved on to the Tories.

Fella

Fella wrote: »

Corbyn & McDonnell will clearly spew out an endless stream of "catchy" policies in the hope that eventually a policy chimes with the voters. All the others will likely be ditched as soon as they're floated. A more amusing aspect of them is that they have literally no commitment to their own supposed ideals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/21/labour-ruled-tories-real-extremists-slogan-amid-fears-could/

davomcdave

An extra 4 public holidays a year isn't going to help the economy much. The extra holiday for the death of the Queen Mum cut GDP by about 0.4% give or take. It would be safe to assume that 4 extra bank holidays would cut GDP by at least 1%.

chris_m

davomcdave wrote: »

An extra 4 public holidays a year isn't going to help the economy much. The extra holiday for the death of the Queen Mum cut GDP by about 0.4% give or take. It would be safe to assume that 4 extra bank holidays would cut GDP by at least 1%.

My thought exactly, it's really just a [STRIKE]cry of desperation[/STRIKE] soundbite. Anyway, I can just see a St Georges Day BH going down well in Scotland or vice versa for St Andrews Day.

Of course, being retired it'd make stuff all difference to me - apart from creating more days/weekends where everywhere I might want to go is crowded