Corbynomics: A Dystopia

posh*spice

Moby wrote: »

Purely manufactured outrage! Coming from someone who probably supported the war at the time that's rich.

Not at all. I was there 13th February 2003. I walked with my young family to Hyde Park. I never imagined Blair would ignore us. Never forget that it was a coordinated day of protests across the world in which people in more than 600 cities. Where you there?

I had voted for Blair in 1997 and 2001. Voted Lib Dem 2005 and 2010 voted Cameron.

If David Davis hadn't been so caught up with Brexit I think he would have pushed for a contempt of Parliament vote against Blair last July after Chilcot. So Blair got lucky.

And he has personally made millions out of the Iraq war - you can't deny that?

Moby

posh*spice wrote: »

Not at all. I was there 13th February 2003. I walked with my young family to Hyde Park. I never imagined Blair would ignore us. Never forget that it was a coordinated day of protests across the world in which people in more than 600 cities. Where you there?

I had voted for Blair in 1997 and 2001. Voted Lib Dem 2005 and 2010 voted Cameron.

If David Davis hadn't been so caught up with Brexit I think he would have pushed for a contempt of Parliament vote against Blair last July after Chilcot. So Blair got lucky.

And he has personally made millions out of the Iraq war - you can't deny that?

No I wasn't there......... I agreed with the war. I thought the case had been made....especially after Saddam didn't learn after the first one and hindsight's a wonderful thing of course!

posh*spice

Moby wrote: »

No I wasn't there......... I agreed with the war. I thought the case had been made....especially after Saddam didn't learn after the first one and hindsight's a wonderful thing of course!

Well I never agreed with the Iraq war. I hate Blair for showing no contrition. And I hate hate hate hate that he has made so much money out of all that suffering.

antrobus

Noticed the following on UK polling report;

Westminster voting intentions in Scotland stand at SNP 47%, CON 28%, LAB 14%, LDEM 4%, UKIP 3%
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

Actual Westminster voting in Scotland in 2015 was SNP 50%, LAB 28%, CON 15%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 2%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results/scotland

Well **** me, Labour have lost half of their support North of the Wall?

P.S. For sheer enterainment value, it is worth reading what Nick Cohen has to say in today's Observer regarding that nice Mr Corbyn. He sounds really upset. And Guardian Media allows the use of the word ******* with no qualms, it seems.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/19/jeremy-corbyn-labour-threat-party-election-support

setmefree2

Dismal performance from Blair on Marr this morning - it was very kind of Marr to list all Blair's government failures for us. How did Blair take this - he didn't even blush.....

...Great to wheel him out on the weekend we find out that Osborne is not only an MP, working for Blackrock but now is going to have a newspaper as a mouthpiece....corrupt elites????

Moby

setmefree2 wrote: »

Dismal performance from Blair on Marr this morning - it was very kind of Marr to list all Blair's government failures for us. How did Blair take this - he didn't even blush.....

...Great to wheel him out on the weekend we find out that Osborne is not only an MP, working for Blackrock but now is going to have a newspaper as a mouthpiece....corrupt elites????

On the contrary Blair was excellent on Marr. He was open and insightful in his analysis. A very clear strategic thinker, he is a level above anyone else I've seen. He answered Marr's challenges and got to the heart of the issues. He made the fundamental point that Govmt's can only have a limited impact on globalisation. He explained that the positive political approach is to embrace the future and try to do what we can to assist people with change instead of just being a mouthpiece for their anger and prejudices. He is a class act!

westernpromise

He's a bloodsoaked, corrupt liar, nothing more.

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

On the contrary Blair was excellent on Marr. He was open and insightful in his analysis. A very clear strategic thinker, he is a level above anyone else I've seen. He answered Marr's challenges and got to the heart of the issues. He made the fundamental point that Govmt's can only have a limited impact on globalisation. He explained that the positive political approach is to embrace the future and try to do what we can to assist people with change instead of just being a mouthpiece for their anger and prejudices. He is a class act!

TBH him being back in the lime light has made me feel more sympathetic to the Corbynistas cause....

wotsthat

setmefree2 wrote: »

TBH him being back in the lime light has made me feel more sympathetic to the Corbynistas cause....

There's nothing Tories are more fearful of than a labour leader capable of winning 3 general elections on the bounce.

That's why they love Corbyn and hate Blair.

antrobus

wotsthat wrote: »

There's nothing Tories are more fearful of than a labour leader capable of winning 3 general elections on the bounce.

That's why they love Corbyn and hate Blair.

Their love is growing.:)

The latest Guardian/ICM polling figures are out.

Here are the figures.
Conservatives: 45% (up 1)
Labour: 26% (down 2)
Ukip: 10% (down 1)
Lib Dems: 9% (up 1)
Greens: 4% (down 1)
Conservative lead: 19 points (up 3)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/mar/20/tom-watson-accuses-momentum-of-hard-left-plan-to-take-control-of-labour-politics-live?page=with:block-58cfc8c7e4b007e8557edc4c#block-58cfc8c7e4b007e8557edc4c

Well I never, the Cons have had a budget U-Turn, constant drama over Brexit, with the Sturbot causing trouble, and what you get is the biggest Conservative poll lead since 1983.