Corbynomics: A Dystopia

BarryBlue

Sapphire wrote: »

Personally, I like Teresa May's style, and I do think she has charisma (as well as competence), though she has a quiet way about her. She seems very different from political leaders we've had in the past – though I still need to see how she will do.

I have to say that you are easily pleased by our politicians. The current shower have been cobbled together at short notice after the referendum. They seem to have little clue what they are doing, which is probably why nothing is getting done.

I would find it difficult to imagine a less inspiring and charismatic person than May. She appears utterly false and insincere, just as when she was at the Home Office, where her record was pretty abysmal. She exudes neither confidence nor competence. She seems to have little idea beyond all her Brexit rhetoric. There is no plan for that, and seemingly no agenda for anything else. It seems that her sycophantic cronies are happy to let her bumble onwards towards leaving the EU, making it up as she goes along. Meanwhile the NHS, social care, transport and education just descend into one crisis after another.

If May is the best we can do (and, yes, if Corbyn is the best Labour can do!) then this country is in serious trouble.

antrobus

Here's John McDonnell with the latest news;

We have to alert party members and supporters that the soft coup is underway. It’s planned, co-ordinated and fully resourced. It is being perpetrated by an alliance between elements in the Labour Party and the Murdoch media empire, both intent on destroying Jeremy Corbyn and all that he stands for.

Anyway, what this soft coup amounts to is that Labour insiders are talking to journalists and saying unkind things about the sainted Corbyn. Not only are they giving the voters the impression that the party is split, but their objective is to ensure that Corbyn trails in the polls and can’t win elections.

Of course, some of us are of the opinion that Corbyn seems perfectly capable of trailing in the polls and not winning elections without anyone else's help. But anyway;

This is the testing time for the Corbyn transformation. The challenges are great and the times are tough - but we all know that this is the socialist opportunity of a lifetime.

So don't worry boys and girls, socialism is a coming, just as soon as the transformation is completed.

http://labourbriefing.squarespace.com/home/2017/2/26/the-soft-coup-is-under-way

BobQ

BarryBlue wrote: »

I would find it difficult to imagine a less inspiring and charismatic person than May. She appears utterly false and insincere, just as when she was at the Home Office, where her record was pretty abysmal. She exudes neither confidence nor competence.
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I tend to agree although I do think she is probably more competent than most of her cabinet colleagues. Most PMs talk a good job but fail to do a good job. I think May is one of those people that prefers to get on and do the job rather than try to convince others she has qualities of vision and leadership that she knows she lacks. There is nothing wrong with this approach but if she was faced by a better quality opposition leader she would come up short (think Farage or Sturgeon rather than Farron, Nuttall, or Corbyn).

Thrugelmir

BarryBlue wrote: »

They seem to have little clue what they are doing, which is probably why nothing is getting done.

Sounds as if you have no clue as how to the machinery of Government works. There's plenty going on. Trouble is it's not newsworthy.

BarryBlue

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sounds as if you have no clue as how to the machinery of Government works. There's plenty going on. Trouble is it's not newsworthy.

Yes, in one sense there is plenty going on. Brexit is taking up all the headlines because its supporters seem to be bothered about little else. In truth, it is relatively unimportant in the way the nation functions.

I have no doubt that the shambolic handling of the process is simply a distraction from what this government is really about. Behind all this, the NHS is being run into the ground, social care is in meltdown and the vulnerable are neglected. Education is a complete mess. Housing policy is a joke. The infrastructure of the country crumbles, although of course we will have the vanity project of HS2 to make up for it.

I would say all those things are newsworthy. The problem is that we don't have an effective opposition to hold an uncaring government to account.

Doshwaster

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sounds as if you have no clue as how to the machinery of Government works. There's plenty going on. Trouble is it's not newsworthy.

I can't even start to imagine how big a project this is as leaving the EU touches on virtually every aspect of government. Apparently the Department of the Brexiteers is dealing with over 40 different sectors of the economy at the same time all of which have differing demands, concerns and priorities. Some people seems to think that leaving the EU is a simple matter of cancelling our standing order when it is the most complex reorganisation of government, law and international relations in decades, if not ever.

The biggest problem is that all of this is getting in the way of government doing the stuff they should be concentrating on.

michaels

Czechoslovakia managed to split, iScotland could have happened.



Hard yes, impossible no.

antrobus

michaels wrote: »

Czechoslovakia managed to split,

It was an agreed split. They even agreed to share the national debt. I'm not convinced that pro-independence Scots are as rational as the Czechs and Slovaks.:)

michaels wrote: »

...iScotland could have happened. ...

If it had happened before 2008, the 'problems' with RBS and HBOS would have sunk this iScotland.

michaels wrote: »

...Hard yes, impossible no....

I'm not sure that anyone has ever claimed it was 'impossible'

setmefree2

Jeremy Corbyn faces fresh row over his tax return after insisting nothing has been 'hidden'

Jeremy Corbyn has insisted nothing has been "hidden" from his tax return amid allegations that he failed to declare £30,000 he earned as Labour leader.
Labour said Mr Corbyn was paid an additional £27,192 on top of his MP's salary in the year 2015/16.
However, Mr Corbyn was paid £30,587 for for his role as Opposition leader in 2015-16, according to the government annual accounts.

Last night Mr Corbyn was facing claims he may have failed to declare income on his tax return last night after it appeared to show that he did not take a salary as Labour leader.
The additional salary was missing from his official declaration to HM Revenue and Customs and aides were unable to explain the omission.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/06/jeremy-corbyn-insists-taxes-fully-paid-nothing-has-hidden/
Just :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

westernpromise

Yes, but just like tax rises that should be imposed on other people, it's other people's tax dodging that needs to be addressed.