Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yeah keep telling yourself that while you are trying to justify your triple locked state pension and winter fuel allowance.

The triple lock will go. Simply unaffordable in the longer term. Linked to CPI will suffice.

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

You can argue whether Blair was sufficiently left wing but he did win 3 elections.

There was a pact with Brown. Hence why Brown retained his prominent position. The pact glued the core factions of the Labour party together, and pushed the likes of Corbyn to the fringes.

TrickyTree83

westernpromise wrote: »

It may also go some way in explaining why the younger voter is more predisposed to voting for Corbyn as they've been raised in an environment where resource was abundant and why the core Labour vote they have

Although the younger you are the less likely to vote you are. Corbyn is net shedding vote share, because the screechy entitled loons who support him turn off older voters, but will not replace them - because they themselves typically do not vote.

Which is a trait that speaks to the 'r' gene sets requirement for instant gratification. The theory goes into all of the associated traits quite deeply and - at least for me - serves to explain why the left leaning young act the way they do. That they (the 'r' gene set) don't consider the long game. In the analogy of the rabbits, since there's an abundance of grass you don't compete for the grass your neighbour eats. Just move a couple of steps away and continue to eat your grass, breed (like rabbits) and continue to eat grass until there is no more grass. In this perspective, the young wouldn't vote since they're getting everything they want now. The moment they don't get what they want you'll hear about it, as evident in the EU referendum vote.

It really is worth looking into, it's a bit of a chore since there's a hell of a lot to explain. It took me about 4+ hours of reading/watching to grasp what they're saying. Obviously there's a multitude of complexities on top of this very basic epigenetic theory and it's a very generalist view of the population as a whole, in that respect outliers will exist that 'disprove the rule'.

ruggedtoast

gadgetmind wrote: »

Left wing propaganda with no rooting in reality.

And I say this as someone whose daughter should shortly be a Junior Doctor and who socialises with many GPs, nurses, surgeons, etc.

Yeah right. Go and ask her what she thinks when she actually is a junior doctor.

I have close family who work in the NHS, some actually as doctors, and they are very unhappy indeed.

I suppose you think they have all been on strike because they have nothing better to do with their time and the £50k of student loan debt that most medics carry now just pays itself?

The ivory tower delusion exhibited from members of this forum is something truly to behold.

You literally have no idea what life is like for a significant majority of the people with whom you share a country.

And you just don't appear to care either. Which is the thing which is inexcusable.

ruggedtoast

Corbyn smashes Smith with full support from the CWU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-latest-trade-union-communication-workers-union-support-vote-a7166811.html

JC has got the support of one of the largest unions. There really is no point Smith carrying on, other than to continue the Blairites obsession with Labour killing itself rather than fighting the Tories, for another couple if months.

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yeah right. Go and ask her what she thinks when she actually is a junior doctor.

I have close family who work in the NHS, some actually as doctors, and they are very unhappy indeed.

I suppose you think they have all been on strike because they have nothing better to do with their time and the £50k of student loan debt that most medics carry now just pays itself?

The ivory tower delusion exhibited from members of this forum is something truly to behold.

You literally have no idea what life is like for a significant majority of the people with whom you share a country.

And you just don't appear to care either. Which is the thing which is inexcusable.

But negotiating a different contract for junior doctors is a different subject matter to that of privatisation of the NHS is it not?

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Corbyn smashes Smith with full support from the CWU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-latest-trade-union-communication-workers-union-support-vote-a7166811.html

JC has got the support of one of the largest unions. There really is no point Smith carrying on, other than to continue the Blairites obsession with Labour killing itself rather than fighting the Tories, for another couple if months.

How many members support that did they even ask them. I was a member of that union for years and if I still was I would not be happy.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Corbyn smashes Smith with full support from the CWU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-latest-trade-union-communication-workers-union-support-vote-a7166811.html

JC has got the support of one of the largest unions. There really is no point Smith carrying on, other than to continue the Blairites obsession with Labour killing itself rather than fighting the Tories, for another couple if months.

Why do you use violent language like 'smash' :
After the trafgic death of Jo, why not consider a kinder, more gentle type of politics, where there can be mutual respect between people even if you disagree with them. (I suppose your violent language probably stems from your dysfunctional relation with your parents).

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

JC has got the support of one of the largest unions. There really is no point Smith carrying on, other than to continue the Blairites obsession with Labour killing itself rather than fighting the Tories, for another couple if months.

Corbyn is merely the puppet for the Union Masters. They'll be making demands and pulling the strings.

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

How many members support that did they even ask them. I was a member of that union for years and if I still was I would not be happy.

That doesn't surprise me in the least.