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Corbynomics: A Dystopia
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Latest opinion poll, Corbyn to crush Owen Smith by two votes to one.
Labour a few points only behind the Tories.
Exciting times!
Same opinion poll - who would make the best Prime Minister (among the general public, rather than just Labour supporters!) Theresa May leads Corbyn by 52% to 16%.0 -
One of the great ironies about this is that no one looks happier than Mr Corbyn. When he launched his campaign last week, he looked more invigorated than at any time since he became Labour leader.The prospect of spending the next nine weeks having to reapply for his position would have infuriated and depressed any other party leader I have known. Yet he declared himself to be “excited” by the prospect and I believe that. He now has a whole summer ahead of him when he doesn’t have to talk to his MPs or try to muster an effective opposition to the Tories. He can spend the summer doing what he most loves, which is communing with devotees who already agree with him rather than trying to engage with swing voters. He will travel from one Momentum rally to another Momentum rally telling his supporters that they are building a wonderful grassroots movement and in turn being hailed by his audiences as a hero. At his campaign launch, he was already suggesting what he’d do with the fruits of victory by talking about deselection of Labour MPs.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/24/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-mutiny-desperation0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »
Insightful article from the Guardian:rotfl:
Seriously, this is what Corbyn does best, meeting with people who support his views and forming little pressure groups where they can march and shout slogans and wave their banners but actually never do anything about being the Official Opposition.
McDonnel said as much in the Andrew Marr show this morning, that the Labour Party was simply a vehicle to achieve Socialism. So it appears that they are not interested in winning elections, or being the Official Opposition, they are playing the long game towards this end. (bottom of page 8/top of page 9 in this document):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/24071603.pdf(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
seven-day-weekend wrote: »Seriously, this is what Corbyn does best, meeting with people who support his views and forming little pressure groups where they can march and shout slogans and wave their banners but actually never do anything about being the Official Opposition.
Sounds like a US-style TV/arena evangelist. Maintain the core, pull in more mugs, and keep milking them.
It's up to £25 now isn't it?I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
seven-day-weekend wrote: »McDonnel said as much in the Andrew Marr show this morning
I missed that interview. Did they ask him about his support for the IRA?I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »I missed that interview. Did they ask him about his support for the IRA?
You can read the whole interview in the transcript in my link, but I don't think so.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »I missed that interview. Did they ask him about his support for the IRA?
With McDonnell there is less need to ask him for his views on the IRA as he is on record as saying :It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA.”
andThe deaths of innocent civilians in IRA attacks is a real tragedy, but it was as a result of British occupation in Ireland.
“Because of the bravery of the IRA and people like Bobby Sands we now have a peace process.”0 -
Did anybody damn Thatcher, Major, and Blair for negotiating a peace settlement with the IRA.gadgetmind wrote: »I missed that interview. Did they ask him about his support for the IRA?
Why the snide attacks on those who called for such a process, and recognised the unjust situation in the north of Ireland.
Peace, is peace, is peace..._0 -
Did anybody damn Thatcher, Major, and Blair for negotiating a peace settlement with the IRA.
Why the snide attacks on those who called for such a process, and recognised the unjust situation in the north of Ireland.
Peace, is peace, is peace..._
McDonnell had a long history of supporting the IRA and considering them freedom fighters. He had no part of the peace process.
Do you agree with him (and Corbyn/Abbott) that the IRA were freedom fighter and that putting bombs in Warrington High Street and Birmingham Pubs etc was a positive contribution towards peace?0 -
They were freedom fighters. After Bloody Sunday it was obvious to everyone and their dog, that the powers that be had no intention of a peaceful dialogue.?......Do you agree with him (and Corbyn/Abbott) that the IRA were freedom fighter and that putting bombs in Warrington High Street and Birmingham Pubs etc was a positive contribution towards peace?
The course of that war, along with all other wars, led to one tragedy after another. And the simple truth is that without such a campaign the british state would not have negotiated a settlement.
A simple and sad truth..._0
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