Corbynomics: A Dystopia

chucknorris

Moby wrote: »

I think his best period was the coalition.....but imo he put the referendum in the manifesto for internal tory party reasons not for the good of the country. He wanted to shoot the Farage fox but it didn't work and that will be his legacy I'm afraid....and we'll be paying the price for years to come.

I can't disagree with you, all I can say is that we all make mistakes.

Moby

Interesting polling. Perhaps Corbyn's support from Members is waning:-
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/labour-members-corbyn-post-brexit/

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

I think his best period was the coalition.....but imo he put the referendum in the manifesto for internal tory party reasons not for the good of the country. He wanted to shoot the Farage fox but it didn't work and that will be his legacy I'm afraid....and we'll be paying the price for years to come.

the left has never been keen on trusting the voters and respecting democracy

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

the left has never been keen on trusting the voters and respecting democracy

So which voters should I trust Clapton and for how long?

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

So which voters should I trust Clapton and for how long?

the left usually favours trusting the great leader rather that the people
saves all the trouble holding elections

kinger101

Moby wrote: »

Interesting polling. Perhaps Corbyn's support from Members is waning:-
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/labour-members-corbyn-post-brexit/

He doesn't need support of Labour party members. He just needs to recruit enough people with £3. I fear the only realistic chance of getting rid of him is if Labour can decide that he'd nominations to stand again. I don't think the likes of Saddiq Khan will make the same mistake twice. The alternative is trying to get enough moderates to sign up and pay £3, but I think that would need the rest of the PLP to get behind a single candidate and make an orchestrated effort to sign up moderates to vote. Don't know who the right candidate might be. Burnham has been keeping his powder dry.

Jason74

chucknorris wrote: »

I can't disagree with you, all I can say is that we all make mistakes.

True. And while I've never voted Tory in my life, I'd have to reluctantly acknowledge that the referendum issue apart, he's actually done a pretty effective job as PM.

But, the whole referendum fiasco will have massive consequences. As a result of a decision taken mainly for internal party reason, we will now lose our place in the EU (with all the economic damage that goes with that), and possibly see a break up of the UK itself in the process.

As mistakes go, that's a pretty big one. Indeed, quite possibly the biggest single blunder of any PM since WW2. When someone makes a screw up that big, then sadly that is their legacy regardless of whatever else they may have acheived

markharding557

I fear that in the medium term labour are as screwed as they were in the early 1980's, a severe defeat to discredit and weaken the loony left must happen before the journey back to electability and power can begin.
In the aftermath of the forthcoming defeat will come the leader whose task will be to do battle with the hard left and to steer them back to sanity. History is repeating its self.

Ruggedtoast: In 1983 Thatcher won a landslide 120 majority against loony left infested Labour, it's going to happen again thanks to moronic idiots like you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_1983

CLAPTON

Jason74 wrote: »

True. And while I've never voted Tory in my life, I'd have to reluctantly acknowledge that the referendum issue apart, he's actually done a pretty effective job as PM.

But, the whole referendum fiasco will have massive consequences. As a result of a decision taken mainly for internal party reason, we will now lose our place in the EU (with all the economic damage that goes with that), and possibly see a break up of the UK itself in the process.

As mistakes go, that's a pretty big one. Indeed, quite possibly the biggest single blunder of any PM since WW2. When someone makes a screw up that big, then sadly that is their legacy regardless of whatever else they may have acheived

so under no circumstances would you allow the people to have a vote on brexit because they may come to the wrong conclusion?

BobQ

Rinoa wrote: »

Momentum meeting in Liverpool:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/01/momentum-and-liverpool-is-labour-heading-for-a-split-jeremy-corbyn

Revival of Militant Tendency meeting?