Corbynomics: A Dystopia

chucknorris

Spidernick wrote: »

Most advocates of democracy would argue that the country needs an effective opposition to hold the government of the day to account. I have heard plenty of Tories saying that of late (including one David Cameron). As such, I think your assertion is wrong and this is certainly not a good time for the Tories either given all the problems it has. To my mind that would be like saying 'my enemy has crashed two cars and I've only crashed one so all is well in the world'!

The Tories are currently 2/1 on to win the next GE, that's good enough for me. Using your analogy the Tories have dented their bumper, but Labour's car looks more like a write off.

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

I would love to

however although he is on record meeting the IRA shortly after the Brighton bombing, sadly there seems is no record of him condemning the murderers.
There is a record of him hanging up the phone and refusing to talk about his links with the IRA.
There's no record of him condemning the vile McDonnell who wanted to 'honour' the killers.

He is on record of meeting some very unpleasant people and saying he was privileged to be in their company, there is no record of him confronting them about killing lgbt

its your choice to open your eyes or to deliberately walk in their shoes.

Mcdonnell condemned himself actually, and explained why he said it.

Corbyn was involved in the peace process and in many ways was one of the proxies the Tories relied on for negotiation. Most of us just wanted the shooting to stop. In the end it needed someone to be involved on the British side who didn't seem to only assume that Irish history started on the 31st of January 1972 and nothing happened before then.

You are very principled with other people's lives i notice.

I am starting to wonder what you have ever done.

Edit: And now I see you are accusing Corbyn of killing lesbian gay bi and transgendered people. For shame Claptrap, for shame.

Spidernick

chucknorris wrote: »

The Tories are currently 2/1 on to win the next GE, that's good enough for me. Using your analogy the Tories have dented their bumper, but Labour's car looks more like a write off.

So essentially you are saying that as long as the Tories are in power that is the be all and end all as far as you are concerned. It doesn't matter that they are divided and in a mess, as long as they are in less of a mess than anyone else. It also doesn't matter about the parlous state of the country at present as long as there is some shade of Tory blue in government. I find that very sad (to put it mildly) but have no more to say on the subject, other than I think you are so very wrong and hope that most people feel the same as I do.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Mcdonnell condemned himself actually, and explained why he said it.

Corbyn was involved in peace process and in many ways was one of the proxies the Tories relied on for negotiation. Most of us just wanted the shooting to stop. In the end it needed someone to be involved on the British side who didn't seem to only assume that Irish history started on the 31st of January 1972 and nothing happened before then.

You are very principled with other people's lives i notice.

I am starting to wonder what you have ever done.

Corbyn had no roll in the peace process other than being an IRA supporter.

McDonnell 'apologised' for any offense caused and NEVER condemned the IRA.

chucknorris

Spidernick wrote: »

So essentially you are saying that as long as the Tories are in power that is the be all and end all as far as you are concerned. It doesn't matter that they are divided and in a mess, as long as they are in less of a mess than anyone else. It also doesn't matter about the parlous state of the country at present as long as there is some shade of Tory blue in government. I find that very sad (to put it mildly) but have no more to say on the subject, other than I think you are so very wrong and hope that most people feel the same as I do.

No I am not saying that, STOP trying to put words in my mouth! The divisions in the Tory party are superficial and can easily be healed, I don't think that you can say that about the Labour party, it seems to me that there are significant structural differences that go way beyond personality clashes.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Edit: And now I see you are accusing Corbyn of killing lesbian gay bi and transgendered people. For shame Claptrap, for shame.

as usual a total refusal to connect with the truth.

I actually posted

He is on record of meeting some very unpleasant people and saying he was privileged to be in their company, there is no record of him confronting them about killing lgbt

its your choice to open your eyes or to deliberately walk in their shoes.

Spidernick

chucknorris wrote: »

No I am not saying that, STOP trying to put words in my mouth! The divisions in the Tory party are superficial and can easily be healed, I don't think that you can say that about the Labour party, it seems to me that there are significant structural differences that go way beyond personality clashes.

I am NOT putting words in your mouth. Reread what you have written on this thread today and tell me where I am wrong.

The Tories are still riven on Europe and that won't change. I think you are sadly mistaken if you think the divisions are 'superficial' and I'm sure this will be clearly shown over the coming weeks in the leadership battle.

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

Corbyn had no roll in the peace process other than being an IRA supporter.

McDonnell 'apologised' for any offense caused and NEVER condemned the IRA.

I believe it was cheese and tomato. They occasionally provided ham and pickle but as a vegetarian he was unable to accept them.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I believe it was cheese and tomato. They occasionally provided ham and pickle but as a vegetarian he was unable to accept them.

your humour doesn't really compete with McDonnell's although both have a toxic quality in common.

ruggedtoast

Chucknorris is a representative of the the rentier class. He sits on the back of the working man like a giant vampire toad croaking as his tenants graft while he collects rent.

The Tories think Chucknorris is their type of man. Chucknorris thinks they are pretty good fellows too.

The third corner of this triangle, the tenants, are pretty much ignored.

Things would be very different if a proper Corbyn led Labour Party were in power, ergo Chucknorris isn't very keen on the idea.