Corbynomics: A Dystopia

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More hot Water for The Anti-Semite Corbyn

Chief Rabbi condemns 'offensive' Corbyn anti-Semitism comments

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has been accused by the Chief Rabbi of making "offensive" comments at the launch of a Labour party probe into anti-Semitism.
Rather than rebuilding trust with the Jewish community, Mr Corbyn caused "greater concern", Ephraim Mirvis said.
During his speech, Mr Corbyn said Jews were "no more responsible" for Israel's actions than Muslims were for "those various self-styled Islamic states".
Mr Corbyn later denied he was comparing Israel and so-called Islamic State.

However, former Chief Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks also complained that Mr Corbyn appeared to compare the state of Israel to so-called Islamic State (IS), calling it "demonisation of the highest order, an outrage and unacceptable".
That it occurred at an event to report on dealing with accusations of anti-Semitism within Labour showed "how deep the sickness is in parts of the left of British politics today", he said in a statement.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36676018

He's so anti-semitic he doesn't even realize he is. Nor did his team notice.

Mistermeaner

Mistermeaner wrote: »

rugged - honestly do you really believe corbyn and the hard left could ever get close to power in this country?

Politics is the art of compromise and the views on the extreme left do not resonate with enough of the population to gain anything like enough support to ever see power. Surely you realise this?

Strategically this hard line is detrimental both to labour generally and to the very causes corbyn appears to support - the more hardline he is the more support the hard left loses from the moderate elements of the party and the public as a whole.

The way to get some of what corbyn wants implemented would be to take a back seat, give his backing to a moderate in esxchange for some of his policies getting an airing once the party is in power - compromise.

Hey rugged would appreciate your thoughts on this ^

ruggedtoast

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Hey rugged would appreciate your thoughts on this ^

Groucho Marx said "These are my principles and if you don't like them, well... I have others."

But he wasn't a representative of the Labour Party.

BobQ

BobQ wrote: »

Tell me when they do get de-selected and then you have 172 constituencies at the next election with a far left Official Labour Party candidate and also a sitting MP standing for the "Real Labour Party" what do you think will happen?

What will happen is that you will end up with about 35 MPs for each and 100 UKIP members. In short, permanent Tory government, a far right opposition and hardly anyone standing up for the traditional Labour supporters.

You want to be in permanent opposition? You think these "Blairites" want a permanent Tory Government? You really think that you know what the country wants?

I think you will find most of country want a moderate centre Government and think Corbyn and the"party within a party" that is Momentum are unelectable.

They WILL go, leaving an unelectable group of Corbyn supporters who will continue to worship their idol. Do you actually want to see any of the policies you support implemented by a Government? Evidence suggest you do not.

Rugged, or you could try to respond to this?

Mistermeaner

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Groucho Marx said "These are my principles and if you don't like them, well... I have others."

But he wasn't a representative of the Labour Party.

OK so you are more interested in corbyns niche trotskie agenda than ever actually being in power.

Carping ineffectually from the margins is easy . enjoy

ruggedtoast

Mistermeaner wrote: »

OK so you are more interested in corbyns niche trotskie agenda than ever actually being in power.

Carping ineffectually from the margins is easy . enjoy

Trotskyism was a form of radical socialism that espoused a socialist world order through continuing revolution.

I am not really sure why you think that applies to the elected leader of the Labour Party whose main aims are social democracy and an equitable distribution of wealth.

Like most right wingers you are good at throwing around pseudo-socialist insults using terminology that you don't understand, in the assumption that your axiomatic McCarthyist diktat will fit with your peers unimaginative tautology.

I just wish that some of you could think for yourselves. Or at least try and find out a little bit about the world from a source that isn't owned by Rupert Murdoch or a Tory donor.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't read the Times and the Daily Mail. But read something else as well.

Jeremy Corbyn is not a communist. By the standards of the European countries most of you just gleefully voted to abandon, he isn't even especially left wing.

But the Rights' fury and bullying of anyone who doesn't share their principles is well documented.

It must be very sad for you all that no matter how much propaganda you fund, or how many Blairite insurrections you arrange, you can't make him go away.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Trotskyism was a form of radical socialism that espoused a socialist world order through continuing revolution.

I am not really sure why you think that applies to the elected leader of the Labour Party whose main aims are social democracy and an equitable distribution of wealth.

Like most right wingers you are good at throwing around pseudo-socialist insults using terminology that you don't understand, in the assumption that your axiomatic McCarthyist diktat will fit with your peers unimaginative tautology.

I just wish that some of you could think for yourselves. Or at least try and find out a little bit about the world from a source that isn't owned by Rupert Murdoch or a Tory donor.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't read the Times and the Daily Mail. But read something else as well.

Jeremy Corbyn is not a communist. By the standards of the European countries most of you just gleefully voted to abandon, he isn't even especially left wing.

But the Rights' fury and bullying of anyone who doesn't share their principles is well documented.

It must be very sad for you all that no matter how much propaganda you fund, or how many Blairite insurrections you arrange, you can't make him go away.

why not offer your assistance?
Maybe tell us about how many times he meet the IRA
give us references to his condemnation of the IRA bombers who bombed Birmingham, Warrington, Brighton and many other places

or you could tell us about his meeting with his 'brothers' who believe in killing lgbt people and how he confronted their prejudices

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

why not offer your assistance?
Maybe tell us about how many times he meet the IRA
give us references to his condemnation of the IRA bombers who bombed Birmingham, Warrington, Brighton and many other places

or you could tell us about his meeting with his 'brothers' who believe in killing lgbt people and how he confronted their prejudices

Why don't you tell us about that, Clapton?

Or would that involve actually looking things up, learning something, and then being unable to promote your flimsy assertions that you attempt to create through shallow repetitive rhetoric?

martinsurrey

Rugged, since you seem to be on the line now can you answer this one.

You think the biggest problem in the Labour party is the disloyalty of its MP's

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The biggest problem the Labour Party has at the moment is the disloyatly of its own MPs.

How can you reconcile this to the fact that the MOST disloyal MP is the one in charge?

How can Corbyn expect loyalty when he was the MOST disloyal MP when the Labour party had its greatest mandate?

(and dont forget Tony Blair had a similar vote percentage as Corbyn to become Labour leader)

Do you expect "do as I say not as I do" considering his 20 years of disloyal voting?

ruggedtoast

martinsurrey wrote: »

Rugged, since you seem to be on the line now can you answer this one.

You think the biggest problem in the Labour party is the disloyalty of its MP's



How can you reconcile this to the fact that the MOST disloyal MP is the one in charge?

How can Corbyn expect loyalty when he was the MOST disloyal MP when the Labour party had its greatest mandate?

(and dont forget Tony Blair had a similar vote percentage as Corbyn to become Labour leader)

Do you expect "do as I say not as I do" considering his 20 years of disloyal voting?

He has voted consistently across his career.

Disloyalty isn't voting in accordance with your principles. Disloyalty is undermining your leader at every opportunity, running to the Tory press to spread rumours, plotting coups, and spending more time criticising your own party than the opposition.