Corbynomics: A Dystopia

CLAPTON

BobQ wrote: »

Aside from the Blairite reference, you are correct.

Tell me when they do get de-selected and then you have 172 constituencies at the next election with a far left Official Labour Party candidate and also a sitting MP standing for the "Real Labour Party" what do you think will happen?

What will happen is that you will end up with about 35 MPs for each and 100 UKIP members. In short, permanent Tory government, a far right opposition and hardly anyone standing up for the traditional Labour supporters.



You want to be in permanent opposition? You think these "Blairites" want a permanent Tory Government? You really think that you know what the country wants?

I think you will find most of country want a moderate centre Government and think Corbyn and the"party within a party" that is Momentum are unelectable.



They WILL go, leaving an unelectable group of Corbyn supporters who will continue to worship their idol. Do you actually want to see any of the policies you support implemented by a Government? Evidence suggest you do not.

I'm beginning to warm to toxic toastie even if he is scared of non european foreigners and hates his parents.

kinger101

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I don't think the country does want him to go. Labour have done well in byelections witn him

Winning 4 very safe seats as an opposition party. I don't think think it has been tested to be honest.

BobQ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

This guys all back Corbyn's leadership.

Len McCluskey, General Secretary, Unite the Union

Dave Prentis, General Secretary, UNISON

Tim Roache, General Secretary, GMB

Dave Ward, General Secretary, CWU

Brian Rye, Acting General Secretary, UCATT

Manuel Cortes, General Secretary, TSSA

Mick Whelan, General Secretary, ASLEF

Matt Wrack, General Secretary, FBU

John Smith, General Secretary, Musicians’ Union

Gerry Morrissey, General Secretary, BECTU

Ronnie Draper, General Secretary, BFAWU

Chris Kitchen, General Secretary, NUM

You may be right but that does not mean their members will vote that way.

As I recall BECTU is voting on merging with another union and so will no longer be affiliated to the Labour Party and become politically neutral.

Rinoa

These are the kind of people who agree with Rugged.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/revealed-labour-mps-go-to-police-over-death-threats-after-refusa/

ruggedtoast

It will all come right in the end as long as Jeremy hangs on.

Chilcott is out soon which will stymie the Blairites, then the leadership election will scupper them with Corbyn,

The public need reassurance that their man is not going to fall to Red Tories and the Murdoch press before they have a chance for a crack at the ballot.

The biggest problem the Labour Party has at the moment is the disloyatly of its own MPs.

They aren;t in the least concerned about Corbyn's leadership in anything other than that they disagree with its direction.

They don't want fairness, equality and jobs for working class people. They want an easy road to government followed by cosy directorships in blue chip companies.

The members are going to send a clear message out to MPs that anyone thinking that becoming a Labour MP is a meal ticket to a good life of gravy trains has another think coming.

Labour means grit, hard work, muck, and sacrifice for the working man. Not acting like a nodding dog for the Tory front bench, voting for their wars, approving their blasted benefit cuts and cosying up to them in the canteen.

Rinoa

Those still supporting Corbyn are basically a gang of thugs directing Momentum's Rent-a-mob to attack moderate Labour MP's in any way they think appropriate including vile abuse and even threats of rape and murder.

Ruggedtoast says he still supports Corbyn.

ruggedtoast

Rinoa wrote: »

These are the kind of people who agree with Rugged.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/revealed-labour-mps-go-to-police-over-death-threats-after-refusa/

Oh look. A Tory supporter cites a Tory newspaper pouring dirt on Corbyn.

Just for a change.

Well, suck it up, because Corbyn and the Left aren't going anywhere.

The Parliamentary Labour Party will act like the Labour Party or they can leave. Very simple.

Mistermeaner

rugged - honestly do you really believe corbyn and the hard left could ever get close to power in this country?

Politics is the art of compromise and the views on the extreme left do not resonate with enough of the population to gain anything like enough support to ever see power. Surely you realise this?

Strategically this hard line is detrimental both to labour generally and to the very causes corbyn appears to support - the more hardline he is the more support the hard left loses from the moderate elements of the party and the public as a whole.

The way to get some of what corbyn wants implemented would be to take a back seat, give his backing to a moderate in esxchange for some of his policies getting an airing once the party is in power - compromise.

Rinoa

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Oh look. A Tory supporter cites a Tory newspaper pouring dirt on Corbyn.

They were quoting Labour MP's.

ruggedtoast

Rinoa wrote: »

They were quoting Labour MP's.

They can do one.

The assertion that the hundreds of thousands of Labour members who voted for Corbyn are hardline thugs is preposterous.

People threatening Blairite MPs are no more representative of Corbyn supporters than the nut who killed Jo Cox was of Leave supporters.

This is just a smokescreen being used by the MSM, yet again, to try and divert attention away from the real issue. Which is that people are sick and tired of electing lying politicians who pay lip service to representing ordinary people and then run to the nearest corporate lobbyist the moment they get into Parliament.

Angela Eagle voted for the Iraq War, for airstrikes in Syria, for replacing Trident, abstained on the welfare bill, abstained on workfare, for tuition fee hikes, and consistently blocked enquiries into the Iraq War.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ian-sinclair/who-is-angela-eagle

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10182/angela_eagle/wallasey/divisions?policy=975

In what way does this individual represent the views of Labour Party members and supporters? At best her voting record makes her look like a moderately middle ground Tory MP.

But, yet again this is the type of leader the PLP want to shove down our throats because they know whats best for us.

What they know about is whats best for themselves. Well, they aren't getting it.