Corbynomics: A Dystopia

CLAPTON

abinanthanb wrote: »

. After seeing years of rule by the likes of Blair, brown, Cameron and Osborne, I prefer a leader who is honest and open rather than Charismatic and motivational. If Corbyn fails, its because of the party leaders who are not co-operating with him.

in what way is he honest : a man who has supported the IRA for 40 years but now refuses to discuss the matter?
a man who have been against the EU for 40 years and has consistantly voted against the EU matters until becoming leader and its politic to change his mind?
a man who has been against Trident for 40 years but now will vote for it but won't personally push the buttton

many words come to mind but honest isn't one of tehm

antrobus

ruggedtoast wrote: »

...This wasn't, and has never been a Labour issue...

Are you quite insane? The Labour Party once campaigned on a platform on leaving Europe.

ruggedtoast wrote: »

...The fact is all you can do is keep repeating "Corbyn is useless Corbyn is useless" like a brain washed parrot, because thats what the Daily Mail has told you to think. ..

You mean like Tom Watson telling Corbyn that he has "no authority". A leader with no authority is pretty foxin useless.

ruggedtoast wrote: »

...You appear to be unable to justify your argument or support it with any facts or reasoning. Actually, you sound a lot like a Leave voter.

Like a certain Jeremy Corbyn you mean?:rotfl:

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

He delivered 69% support for Remain among Labour voters, whereas the Tories managed 47% in their own supporters.

Yes thats right, the Tory Party called a referendum and managed to lose to itself. But this is somehow the fault of Jeremy Corbyn, because the Blairites and Murdoch press that doesn't want the UK electorate to have a left wing party to vote for, says so.

He is going to be on the ballot paper again and he is going to get voted in again. Hopefully the Blairites will finally get the message and either defect to the Tories, a party it appears they would be much happier representing, or swallow it and stop undermining the membership.

Or leave and form a new centre left party and take a large number of Labour voters with them.

markharding557

[QUOTE=ruggedtoast;

Yes thats right, the Tory Party called a referendum and managed to lose to itself. But this is somehow the fault of Jeremy Corbyn, because the Blairites and Murdoch press that doesn't want the UK electorate to have a left wing party to vote for, says so.

He is going to be on the ballot paper again and he is going to get voted in again. Hopefully the Blairites will finally get the message and either defect to the Tories, a party it appears they would be much happier representing, or swallow it and stop undermining the membership.[/QUOTE]

If the Labour want a left wing leader then fair enough but they need one who is competent, telegenic, consistent and with abundant leadership qualities.
JC fits none of these attributes and this is exacerbated by his dodgy historical connections with terrorists.

They could look to the example of the most socialist Labour PM historically Clemence Attlee who was also deputy PM under Churchill during WW2, Attlee was a giant compared to the pitiful Corbyn who isn't fit to lick his boots.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

He delivered 69% support for Remain among Labour voters, whereas the Tories managed 47% in their own supporters.

Corbyn delivered nothing. He made no constructive contribution to the debate either for in or out. People made their own choices based on how they felt in the gut. This debate was about the future of the UK not political party support. Brown had more of an impact amongst the more traditional Labour supporter I suspect.

Moby

ruggedtoast wrote: »

He delivered 69% support for Remain among Labour voters, whereas the Tories managed 47% in their own supporters.

Yes thats right, the Tory Party called a referendum and managed to lose to itself. But this is somehow the fault of Jeremy Corbyn, because the Blairites and Murdoch press that doesn't want the UK electorate to have a left wing party to vote for, says so.

He is going to be on the ballot paper again and he is going to get voted in again. Hopefully the Blairites will finally get the message and either defect to the Tories, a party it appears they would be much happier representing, or swallow it and stop undermining the membership.

Mate you are dead wrong on this one. He is a waste of space. He is useless. He is also very arrogant thinking he has a mandate from £3 entryists, half of whom were kids! He needs to acknowledge he has lost the confidence of 90% of his PLP and remember they stood for election too.....and they were elected by the general public. By the way I am a member...don't talk about us as a same thinking mass! His support is ebbing because people have had 10 months to observe how crap he is as a leader! Also remember he has no right to call for loyalty. How loyal has he been to his party over the years!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/labour-hq-told-activists-to-avoid-immigration-issue-in-eu-campaign

borntobefree

Moby wrote: »

Mate you are dead wrong on this one. He is a waste of space. He is useless. He is also very arrogant thinking he has a mandate from £3 entryists, half of whom were kids! He needs to acknowledge he has lost the confidence of 90% of his PLP and remember they stood for election too.....and they were elected by the general public. By the way I am a member...don't talk about us as a same thinking mass! His support is ebbing because people have had 10 months to observe how crap he is as a leader! Also remember he has no right to call for loyalty. How loyal has he been to his party over the years!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/labour-hq-told-activists-to-avoid-immigration-issue-in-eu-campaign

If my son is anything to go by he has lost the yoof vote- they feel like he totally let them down over the EU ref.

Sad days seeing Labour in this state. It's in danger of disappearing in England like it has in Scotland. Now Labour supporters have voted against them once they will find it easier to do at the next GE.

ruggedtoast

The resigners will rue today's treachery. As will the Blairite turncoat Watson.

Corbyn will be re-elected with a large mandate then there will be no hiding places.

Moby

borntobefree wrote: »

If my son is anything to go by he has lost the yoof vote- they feel like he totally let them down over the EU ref.

Sad days seeing Labour in this state. It's in danger of disappearing in England like it has in Scotland. Now there supporters have voted against them once they will find it easier to do at the next GE.

He is the worst Labour leader I have seen. Letting the general public choose your next leader is completely ridiculous. We are stuck with him until this mass membership gets reality! His team were briefing against Alan Johnstone's Remain campaign. He was talking out of the side of his mouth during the whole campaign. He is a complete liability. I have tried to defend him at times but that's because you have to......but no more!

Moby

ruggedtoast wrote: »

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Corbyn will be re-elected with a large mandate then there will be no hiding places.

Hiding places for him or for me....because if I come across him:mad: