Corbynomics: A Dystopia

mrginge

ruggedtoast wrote: »

He delivered 69% support for Remain among Labour voters, whereas the Tories managed 47% in their own supporters.

When you consider that more Tory voters are naturally more eurosceptic than labour voters, those numbers look like an unmitigated failure for the dear leader.

ruggedtoast

hildosaver wrote: »

I take no pleasure in saying this but Corbyn is not a leader - I like a lot of the things he says and I think he is a decent man who I desperately hoped would do well but he was absolutely hopeless during the BREXIT debate. He is finished I'm afraid.

He hopelessly delivered a large majority of Labour voters coming out against Brexit. Thereby achieving exactly what he attempted to.

Yes hopeless. If only he had been a bit more successful like David Cameron then we wouldn't be in this mess.

I don't think I will bother any more. You'll just believe what you want to believe then vote for Boris Johnson and a Conservative austerity government in November anyway, like most of the faux Labour supporters on the internet.

ruggedtoast

mrginge wrote: »

When you consider that more Tory voters are naturally more eurosceptic than labour voters, those numbers look like an unmitigated failure for the dear leader.

Maybe the Tories might have decided to consider that before calling a referendum that was so unpopular with their own voters that they needed 80%+ support from Labour to carry.

mrginge

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Maybe the Tories might have decided to consider that before calling a referendum that was so unpopular with their own voters that they needed 80%+ support from Labour to carry.

Maybe they hedged that the labour leadership would actually stand up and be counted to help deliver the necessary result.

They clearly failed to realise that Corbyn is utterly useless.

hildosaver

ruggedtoast wrote: »

He hopelessly delivered a large majority of Labour voters coming out against Brexit. Thereby achieving exactly what he attempted to.

Yes hopeless. If only he had been a bit more successful like David Cameron then we wouldn't be in this mess.

I don't think I will bother any more. You'll just believe what you want to believe then vote for Boris Johnson and a Conservative austerity government in November anyway, like most of the faux Labour supporters on the internet.

No need for the last two sentences, like I said I wanted Corbyn to do well as I believe him to be a decent and principled man but I do not believe he has proven himself to be strong enough to be an effective leader. You disagree on that and that's fine. To add in that patronising dismissal at the end really let you down.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

He delivered 69% support for Remain among Labour voters, whereas the Tories managed 47% in their own supporters.

Yes thats right, the Tory Party called a referendum and managed to lose to itself. But this is somehow the fault of Jeremy Corbyn, because the Blairites and Murdoch press that doesn't want the UK electorate to have a left wing party to vote for, says so.

He is going to be on the ballot paper again and he is going to get voted in again. Hopefully the Blairites will finally get the message and either defect to the Tories, a party it appears they would be much happier representing, or swallow it and stop undermining the membership.

so as well as having a toxic hadred of your parents and grandparents and everyone else's too, vote for and admire an IRA supporter too : I guess no surprise there

ruggedtoast

mrginge wrote: »

Maybe they hedged that the labour leadership would actually stand up and be counted to help deliver the necessary result.

They clearly failed to realise that Corbyn is utterly useless.

Necessary for who? The Tory Party's necessity to stop haemorrhaging voters to UKIP?

There was a general election last year and the only party to campaign on a platform of leaving Europe was UKIP, who won one seat.

There was no need for a referendum, no mandate, it wasn't in the national interests, and the Prime Minister lost.

This wasn't, and has never been a Labour issue. The fact is all you can do is keep repeating "Corbyn is useless Corbyn is useless" like a brain washed parrot, because thats what the Daily Mail has told you to think.

You appear to be unable to justify your argument or support it with any facts or reasoning. Actually, you sound a lot like a Leave voter.

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

so as well as having a toxic hadred of your parents and grandparents and everyone else's too, vote for and admire an IRA supporter too : I guess no surprise there

I can't even begin to make sense of that sentence. Even by your standards.

Is this the point of the day when your different medications start interacting with one another?

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I can't even begin to make sense of that sentence. Even by your standards.

Is this the point of the day when your different medications start interacting with one another?

no surprise that you don't understand what is wrong with hating your parents and their generation nor admiring an IRA supporter.
I still hope that one day you will become a decent person and become reconciled with your parents/grandparents etc.

abinanthanb

During the entire Brexit campaigns, I haven't come across one current labour leaders campaigning for remain, except Corbyn and Sadiq Khan. All these leaders were conspicuously absent, but unanimous to call him a failure. After seeing years of rule by the likes of Blair, brown, Cameron and Osborne, I prefer a leader who is honest and open rather than Charismatic and motivational. If Corbyn fails, its because of the party leaders who are not co-operating with him.