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Corbynomics: A Dystopia
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I think you are mistaking me for a Corbyn mouthpiece? I just drop into this nasty little thread sometimes and respond to the bigotry of the same old little clique of right winger haters who have a tendancy to mistake their own prejudices for constructive criticism.;)Could you explain how Labour justify this after attacking the Tories repeatedly on welfare cuts vs Trident spending?0 -
I think you are mistaking me for a Corbyn mouthpiece? I just drop into this nasty little thread sometimes and respond to the bigotry of the same old little clique of right winger haters who have a tendancy to mistake their own prejudices for constructive criticism.;)
Ok, fair enough.0 -
I think you are mistaking me for a Corbyn mouthpiece? I just drop into this nasty little thread sometimes and respond to the bigotry of the same old little clique of right winger haters who have a tendancy to mistake their own prejudices for constructive criticism.;)
why don't you explain in clear english why you support IRA fellow travellers and people that think IRA bombers should honoured; or why you support people who think killing 50 million chinese in the name of socialism is acceptable.
I do agree such people are nasty people.0 -
It'a a perfectly feasible option unless you are a right wing headbanger of course just out to smear jezza at every opportunity. I think Japan has done this for years!
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/17/labours-defence-policy-review-given-third-option-for-trident-stance
Can you explain, in your own words, why it is reasonable to have a fleet of submarines designed for the sole purpose of launching nuclear missiles, that goes to sea unarmed.
You either have submarines + missiles or neither.
He's only come up with this option as Len McCluskly has flexed his muscles. It's a great sign of weakness."Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0 -
These so called 'leftists' are as much part of the country as anyone else is....
So they are. But you have to be trapped in the activist bubble to think they are representative of the general public... 'The shadow defence secretary, Emily Thornberry, later confirmed that the idea would be considered as part of the defence review, launched on Friday. Thornberry said it was the “Japanese option” to maintain submarines and nuclear capabilities without actually having operational nuclear weapons.'....
Ms Thornberry can call it what she likes, but the fact is that Japan does not have a fleet of submarines complete with ICBMs floating about the seas. Japan has no offensive missile capability whatsoever. Thus calling it the 'Japanese option' would be highly misleading. I will not be misled by anyone, irrespective of whether they go by the name of Thornberry or Corbyn... Japan has been able to produce nuclear weapons since the eighties and also has a large stockpile of plutonium.
Having the technical ability to build a warhead and the raw material to do, and actually possessing the capability to do so are two different things. Japan may have the former, but it does not have the latter. Estimates on how long it would take for Japan to actually produce a warhead range from six months, to about five years, if you believe this report.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/05/10/national/history/going-nuclear-close-japan-come/#.Vp0ouNInzct
I would submit that, firstly; even if it takes only six months, a fat lot of good that will be. If someone has just flattened every major city in the country, and crippled your industrial infrastructure, you are in no position to do much at all.
And secondly; if you have a moral objection to the use of nuclear weapons, what difference does it make when you are going to launch the missile? It's like arguing that, whilst it would be wrong to kill your wife tomorrow, it's perfectly OK if you wait six months.0 -
I think you are mistaking me for a Corbyn mouthpiece? I just drop into this nasty little thread sometimes and respond to the bigotry of the same old little clique of right winger haters who have a tendancy to mistake their own prejudices for constructive criticism.;)
Welcome. Hate on.0 -
I was thinking about this not-having-warheads-on-Trident thing.
If we are going to simply pretend to have a nuclear deterrent, why stop there? Why don't we go the whole hog, and just pay all those GMB members to pretend to build a fleet of submarines, at least we'll save the cost of the materials. And then we can pay some RN submariners to pretend to sail the submarines back and forth to the Artic. Heck, for a few million quid we could probably knock together a decent computer game to make all that pretending at least as sufficiently time consuming as the actual thing.
Everybody gets to keep their job, and the taxpayer saves a few quid. Everybody wins.0 -
They've been pretending to work for years!I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
The increase in Labour Party membership would seem to indicate otherwise!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12106543/Jeremy-Corbyn-loses-the-trust-of-Labour-voters-as-belief-in-him-falls-to-almost-half-that-of-Ed-Miliband.htmlJeremy Corbyn loses the trust of Labour voters as belief in him falls to almost half that of Ed Miliband
The Labour leader has lost the trust of scores of voters compared to his predecessor and support for the party has also taken a significant dip, new research showsLabour’s opinion poll ratings “worst since Second World War”
Jeremy Corbyn has the WORST polling record of any Labour leader since at least World War II
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So even compared to Miliband - who was pure Ballot Box Poison - Corbyn is rated even worse, including by Labour's dwindling band of supporters.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0
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