Corbynomics: A Dystopia

kinger101

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I heard this on the radio today. He doesn't want nukes but the unions want the submarines to be built so jobs aren't lost - so the solution is to build submarines designed for the sole purpose of carrying a nuclear deterrent but then don't put any nukes on them!

Genius. Whilst you're at it why not whack up a few coal fired power stations with no intention ever to operate them. We can even dig some coal out of the ground and pile it up next to them. Jesus wept.

He wants to tweak the design too. This is a scale model of one of the new Corbyn subs;

Thrugelmir

the Tories are essentially running pretty much unchecked currrently. This can only be bad for the country.

With the current state of the opposition parties. Thank goodness. The UK isn't in the best of financial health. Labour would wreck havoc with it's lack of coherent costed policies.

antrobus

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I heard this on the radio today. He doesn't want nukes but the unions want the submarines to be built so jobs aren't lost - so the solution is to build submarines designed for the sole purpose of carrying a nuclear deterrent but then don't put any nukes on them! ... .

And presumably when the workers at Aldermaston say 'what about our jobs', we will carry on manufacturing warheads, and shipping them up to Faslane and storing them in a warehouse somewhere, before shipping them back for decommissioning.


It's a win-win.

mwpt

Spidernick wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder if there is any party that represents me at present. I don't think so and am sure there are tens of thousands (or even more) like me in the country

A lot more than tens of thousands, I hope! I haven't found a party that represents my views, pretty much ever.

gadgetmind

Spidernick wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder if there is any party that represents me at present.

I often wonder that myself!

Generally people that paid attention at school, are prepared to work hard (and think everyone else ought to perhaps give this a go too) and consider that a strong economy is the best way to create jobs and help everyone, tend towards the political right, which is where I stand. However, I'm not as far right as the Conservatives (not even as far right as Labour!) and more libertarian than both.

I do wonder if a breakaway party will be formed before too long.

Yes, a schism in Labour seems inevitable, though the Corbynites disagree.

Generali

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I heard this on the radio today. He doesn't want nukes but the unions want the submarines to be built so jobs aren't lost - so the solution is to build submarines designed for the sole purpose of carrying a nuclear deterrent but then don't put any nukes on them!

Genius. Whilst you're at it why not whack up a few coal fired power stations with no intention ever to operate them. We can even dig some coal out of the ground and pile it up next to them. Jesus wept.

It's this constant performance of trying to square a circle that Mr Corbyn has drawn that is going to wreck him.

He's spent a lifetime (I hesitate to call it a career) coming out with lots of statements that the huge majority of British people find ridiculous: let's give up nukes unilaterally, let's side with the IRA and the PLO because they're left wing, genocidists were okay because they called themselves Communists, let's reopen the coal mines despite the fact that coal is clearly on the way out. Now he has to try to show that he is at the same time 'a man of principle' and also work with the other people that have a say in how policy is set.

As Mr Corbyn is discovering the hard way, politics is about the art of compromise. The only way to be a man of principle is to be outside power or to do nasty things to your opponents. Thankfully, no matter how much he may wish otherwise, the UK isn't revolutionary China.

Running_On_Empty

Corbyn is surely a laughing stock now on the world stage. He cannot be seen as any kind of international statesman. He is making it up as he goes along.
All he is fit for is sitting with the Awkward Squad at the back of the class, grumbling and whining and dreaming up unworkable so called policies.

mwpt

I almost feel sorry for the guy. My initial impression was that he genuinely wants to make things better and thought he could, but is now feeling the full force of the real world, rather than the fairy tale socialist paradise. He almost looks bewildered at times, though to be fair I know nothing more about him, maybe he always looked like that.

I could be completely wrong though, maybe he's just another typical politician, after all, you've got to have a certain sort of mind to get into that game.

setmefree2

Jeremy Corbyn's Trident policy: spend £137 billion to save one job – his own

No, it is that he is a pork barrel politician of the first order.
Discussing Trident renewal he said “the first priority has to be to protect those jobs”. Not national security. Not treaty obligations. Not international stability. But jobs, plain and simple. You could have been listening to the late Senator Robert Byrd - the first US politician to pork barrel over $1bn and a man who has left 50 buildings named after him or his wife in West Virginia.
What Corbyn actually meant is “the first priority has to be to protect this job” – his own one. His card has been marked by Sir Paul Kenny of the GMB and Len McCluskey of Unite – the two unions who organise in the manufacturing companies. They have made it clear they will not tolerate the destruction of jobs in engineering and manufacturing. Hence the new Corbyn policy – we can build the new Vanguard submarines but will deploy them without nuclear warheads. This is a commitment to spend £137bn on one job – Corbyn’s own. He presumably has realised that no defence diversification plans in the world have ever been anything but that – plans – and has gone for an option that is beyond parody

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12105535/Jeremy-Corbyns-Trident-policy-spend-137-billion-to-save-one-job-his-own.html

Moby

It'a a perfectly feasible option unless you are a right wing headbanger of course just out to smear jezza at every opportunity. I think Japan has done this for years!
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/17/labours-defence-policy-review-given-third-option-for-trident-stance