Corbynomics: A Dystopia

setmefree2

In other news....

....Cameron says he'll stay even if there is a Brexit....

Mistermeaner

A gross generalisation but.....

There are some in the labour party who genuinely believe that moderate labour is a route to fairer society.

There are lots in the labour party and very much in the trade union end who are greedy and just want stuff be it money or power.

At least Tories are honest about aspiring and want to be allowed to work for it.

Socialism and the left of labour is about wanting stuff and everybody else paying for it

gadgetmind

Mistermeaner wrote: »

There are lots in the labour party and very much in the trade union end who are greedy and just want stuff be it money or power.

Such as that scumbag Scargill.

I knew Jim Lamont very well, and Scargill's cruise control was on his workbench at the time he tried to claim that the speeding was due to faulty cruise control. Scargill then took a prolonged pop at the Police, continued to lie in court, and Jim really was frightened that he'd be next for the concrete block treatment,

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19860425&id=wgI-AAAAIBAJ&sjid=bkkMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1905,6692772&hl=en

Generali

gadgetmind wrote: »

Maybe, but I can't say that I actually dislike him. OK, I find his politics morally repugnant, and he'd be a bigger disaster as PM than he is as leader of the Labour party, but compared to the likes of Blair, he seems a pleasant enough person.

I think that this whole 'decent man' thing is a put up. If you look at his actions then he's shown himself to be utterly duplicitous (free votes that are whipped for example) and he keeps some very unpleasant company.

Thrugelmir

Generali wrote: »

he keeps some very unpleasant company.

Brown did no better with the visitors to no 11 (who also influenced policy no doubt).

michaels

The Standard (I know hardly impartial) made today's non-reshuffle sound like something straight out of Stalinist Russia / Animal Farm.

I notice the new line of attack on Corbyn (from within the Labour party of course) is that he isn't actually a 'man of the people' but merely a champagne socialist from Islington. And potentially there is another union put up man standing by to take the job who will no doubt be feted as a moderate - perhaps the unions having being playing a much clever longer game than we realised?!

Moby

Mistermeaner wrote: »

A gross generalisation but.....

There are some in the labour party who genuinely believe that moderate labour is a route to fairer society.

There are lots in the labour party and very much in the trade union end who are greedy and just want stuff be it money or power.

At least Tories are honest about aspiring and want to be allowed to work for it.

Socialism and the left of labour is about wanting stuff and everybody else paying for it

Total rubbish. In my job the Union is the only thing that stands for decent work conditions. Thousands of people are in the same position. Nothing worse than a worker sucking up to their tory masters! Its as if exploitation doesnt exist anymore. We all live in a land of milk and honey and the same opportunities are available to everyone now! Its not true though and remember if it wasnt for socialist campaigners over history you would still be living like a serf. The fact that union bosses can be corrupt is not news it just atests to the fact that humans whatever their politics are capable of corruption.It seems to me that some people only point out the failures and corruption in their political opponents instead of having the nous to see that those who tend to rise to the top in whatever field are likely to be self interested, ambitious and corrupt. It goes with the territory even among union leaders!

Moby

Generali wrote: »

I think that this whole 'decent man' thing is a put up. If you look at his actions then he's shown himself to be utterly duplicitous (free votes that are whipped for example) and he keeps some very unpleasant company.

I note you say nothing about Camerons turmoil over a free vote for the cabinet over Europe, the handling of the potential doctors strike, his failure to meet his own immigration targets and tory lack of investment in flood defenses? Perhaps those issues are not significant enough to be on the Internet? But the company that Jezza keeps matters so much....!:rotfl:

Generali

michaels wrote: »

The Standard (I know hardly impartial) made today's non-reshuffle sound like something straight out of Stalinist Russia / Animal Farm.

I notice the new line of attack on Corbyn (from within the Labour party of course) is that he isn't actually a 'man of the people' but merely a champagne socialist from Islington. And potentially there is another union put up man standing by to take the job who will no doubt be feted as a moderate - perhaps the unions having being playing a much clever longer game than we realised?!

It's an interesting idea. Somehow I can't imagine the unions being bright enough to put something like that together.

Moby wrote: »

I note you say nothing about Camerons turmoil over a free vote for the cabinet over Europe, the handling of the potential doctors strike, his failure to meet his own immigration targets and tory lack of investment in flood defenses? Perhaps those issues are not significant enough to be on the Internet? But the company that Jezza keeps matters so much....!:rotfl:

Not in a thread about Corbynomics!

Feel free to start a thread about Cameronomics. The difference between Government and opposition, of course, is that in Government you are dealing with operational matters and so things like heavy rain or a large civil war tend to derail you. If you do stupid things like praising homicidal maniacs however faintly (I'm looking at you Mao) as opposition leader then you make yourself a hostage to fortune.

Moby

Generali wrote: »

It's an interesting idea. Somehow I can't imagine the unions being bright enough to put something like that together.



Not in a thread about Corbynomics!

Feel free to start a thread about Cameronomics. The difference between Government and opposition, of course, is that in Government you are dealing with operational matters and so things like heavy rain or a large civil war tend to derail you. If you do stupid things like praising homicidal maniacs however faintly (I'm looking at you Mao) as opposition leader then you make yourself a hostage to fortune.

Calling this thread 'Corbynomics' is tendentious in the extreme. Banging on about 'the company he keeps' is hardly economics either! This thread is just a vehicle for the expression of personal bigotry and is highly inflammatory imo.