Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Generali

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Next years English local elections maybe the watershed for Labour. As will be an opportunity for the electorate to express their opinion.

Oldham will be interesting but the local elections will be defining I agree. I wonder what Mr Corbyn will do when he gets thrashed. Go quiet for a few days before talking rubbish appears to be his MO.

Thrugelmir

Generali wrote: »

Oldham will be interesting but the local elections will be defining I agree. I wonder what Mr Corbyn will do when he gets thrashed. Go quiet for a few days before talking rubbish appears to be his MO.

Corbyn has the support of the Labour party membership though. Exposes the fact that the Labour party has long been divided. Only the Blair\Brown coalition has managed to unite the party in recent history.

Generali

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Corbyn has the support of the Labour party membership though. Exposes the fact that the Labour party has long been divided. Only the Blair\Brown coalition has managed to unite the party in recent history.

That was a well timed post:

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9553

It would appear that You Gov agree with you

Most Labour supporters it seems would rather the Labour party lost with what they consider to be integrity than won with comprise. I wonder if they would feel the same if it meant oblivion for Labour? I suppose they can console themselves with the expectation that in the end their turn will come round again. What if this idiocy means it doesn't?

michaels

On the other hand the speed at which Osborne has rushed to the centre to outflank not only labour but also bojo is far from edifying for those who like politicians to stand for something other than personal ambition.

Generali

michaels wrote: »

On the other hand the speed at which Osborne has rushed to the centre to outflank not only labour but also bojo is far from edifying for those who like politicians to stand for something other than personal ambition.

If you compromise to gain power you'll get some of your policies across, if you don't you'll get none of them as Mr Corbyn is quite quickly finding out.

Thrugelmir

michaels wrote: »

On the other hand the speed at which Osborne has rushed to the centre to outflank not only labour but also bojo is far from edifying for those who like politicians to stand for something other than personal ambition.

More a question of other political party's vacating the middle ground I would say. Ideology over substance. Is never a vote winner.

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

that McDonnell story is another load of crap as well.:rotfl:

Except it wasn't.

Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell has explained why he posed smiling with a letter calling for MI5 to be abolished - despite saying he does not agree with it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/21/john-mcdonnell-mi5-letter_n_8616022.html

setmefree2

Generali wrote: »

Oldham will be interesting but the local elections will be defining I agree. I wonder what Mr Corbyn will do when he gets thrashed. Go quiet for a few days before talking rubbish appears to be his MO.

Labour have a good "local" candidate though. Jim McMahon - he was leader of Oldham council, so I'm guessing he has a lot of local support which will probably override Labour voters' feelings about Corbyn.?

setmefree2

It would be rude not to mention this

Generali

setmefree2 wrote: »

Labour have a good "local" candidate though. Jim McMahon - he was leader of Oldham council, so I'm guessing he has a lot of local support which will probably override Labour voters' feelings about Corbyn.?

Maybe. It depends I guess.

Some voters will vote for Davo because he's always seen them right/is a local lad. Some will vote Labour because That's What I Do. Some will look at candidate's policies and some at national party policy.

I don't know how people weight these things in a by election. The fact that it's a by election must have an impact but I have no idea what that would be.