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DMP & Mutual Support Thread - Part 11

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  • zenshi
    zenshi Posts: 1,133 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts
    I know banks can have the right to offset some money in your account to their debt but I'm sure I've seen somewhere that they can't leave you under a certain amount of money? Is this true?
    LBM.....sometime in 2013 £27,056. 10 creditors
    June 20.....£7,587.....3 creditors left 72% paid

    £26,200 on interest only part of mortgage (July 16)...will chip away £17,103
    £49,200 repayment mortgage ( July 16) £37,764
  • Sazzie23
    Sazzie23 Posts: 2,634 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Post of the Month
    zenshi wrote: »
    I know banks can have the right to offset some money in your account to their debt but I'm sure I've seen somewhere that they can't leave you under a certain amount of money? Is this true?


    Hi Zenshi

    I think, though I'm not absolutely sure, they are not allowed to take the money you need for rent or food for children....if you are in position of offset - take it out and move it!

    Saz
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • zenshi
    zenshi Posts: 1,133 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts
    Sazzie23 wrote: »
    Hi Zenshi

    I think, though I'm not absolutely sure, they are not allowed to take the money you need for rent or food for children....if you are in position of offset - take it out and move it!

    Saz

    I had my eye on moving because of the above, have just cleared OD and obv have debt with them. But wanted to grab a switching bonus to where I only have a little debt. Will do some digging when I have 5 mins and see if I can find what I think I saw
    LBM.....sometime in 2013 £27,056. 10 creditors
    June 20.....£7,587.....3 creditors left 72% paid

    £26,200 on interest only part of mortgage (July 16)...will chip away £17,103
    £49,200 repayment mortgage ( July 16) £37,764
  • blisteringblue
    blisteringblue Posts: 1,140 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Sazzie23 wrote: »
    Sure you'll be careful they don't catch you out with I and E. Still make me feel a bit uncomfortable.

    Saz

    Exactly, never send an IE form to a DCA, they have as much standing as a pile of dog doo doo that you might mistakenly stand in.

    Since going self managed I've actually stopped doing reviews and answering any requests for well anything. They get my standard letter of I'm paying you this, either accept it or don't. Strangely they all do.

    One kept texting me after I told them not to. A quick complaint letter and a £25 sweetner cheque came my way.

    Believe me grab all your control back, DMPs are such an easy game to play.

    BB
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,554 Ambassador
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    zenshi wrote: »
    I know banks can have the right to offset some money in your account to their debt but I'm sure I've seen somewhere that they can't leave you under a certain amount of money? Is this true?

    There are rules on this, but they don't always abide by them.

    Best advice is remove any money from an account with a bank you owe money to.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Spoonhead88
    Spoonhead88 Posts: 113 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Does anyone else think that the idea of selling debt on and debt recovery agencies are wrong and should be banned?
    DMP - JAN 2016
    [STRIKE]Estimated DFD - August 2018[/STRIKE] December 2016
    100% Paid
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,554 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    Does anyone else think that the idea of selling debt on and debt recovery agencies are wrong and should be banned?

    Yes I do, it's a very gray area of law, especially if you don't know what your doing.

    People tend to beleive whatever these big companies tell them, simply because they have your debt, so they must be right, right ? wrong.

    Until very recently most DCA's would lie, cheat, mis-represent there powers, in fact do anything in order to get you to pay up, of course they would never be so silly as to put any of these threats in writing, that's why they prefer the phone, so they can just about tell you anything.

    In recent years the FCA has clamped down on such behaviour, that's not to say it dosent still happen, it does, but either the tape got wiped, or they just lie and deny everything.

    I have had motormile finance lie through there teeth to the FOS, and the FOS just accepted what they said, because of course the concept they would lie to them is unthinkable, this is what your up against unfortunatly, until there's tighter regulation, we're stuck with it !!!
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • System
    System Posts: 178,348 Community Admin
    10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    ramblehan wrote: »
    Hey Folks.
    I'm slightly surprised by how slow one of our creditors is to even acknowledge anything is happening? Is that normal?
    2 out of 3 responses now - both wanted SOE, but on their own style forms - presume I can just bin their forms and send my own version - or do i need to find a pen and go old-school?

    Posted a couple of days ago about wanting to do token payments for a couple of months to build up EF and someone kindly responded to adjust my SOE to reflect what i want to pay, and then up it later on.....feeling weird about that - essentially I feel like I would be lying about our income. Do I have to send an SOE, or can I get away with some form of holding letter?
    So used to just doing everything by the book, this change to working against / around the system is difficult to get my head around.

    Can anyone help? Thanks
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  • Spoonhead88
    Spoonhead88 Posts: 113 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    sourcrates wrote: »
    Yes I do, it's a very gray area of law, especially if you don't know what your doing.

    People tend to beleive whatever these big companies tell them, simply because they have your debt, so they must be right, right ? wrong.

    Until very recently most DCA's would lie, cheat, mis-represent there powers, in fact do anything in order to get you to pay up, of course they would never be so silly as to put any of these threats in writing, that's why they prefer the phone, so they can just about tell you anything.

    In recent years the FCA has clamped down on such behaviour, that's not to say it dosent still happen, it does, but either the tape got wiped, or they just lie and deny everything.

    I have had motormile finance lie through there teeth to the FOS, and the FOS just accepted what they said, because of course the concept they would lie to them is unthinkable, this is what your up against unfortunatly, until there's tighter regulation, we're stuck with it !!!
    At the very least it should be law that a dca had to tell you how much they paid for it.
    DMP - JAN 2016
    [STRIKE]Estimated DFD - August 2018[/STRIKE] December 2016
    100% Paid
  • KID77
    KID77 Posts: 221 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Hi Ramble

    I'm not best placed to answer your question as didn't do token payments and went with Stepchange but I didn't want to ignore.

    I would do a holding letter saying you are seeking advice and help with your debts and for the next 3 months (or however long), I will be paying you x amount. I wouldn't include an SOA at this stage and just say you will be in touch once you have got things in order.

    I can't remember if you are going self managed but if you are then once you have your EF established, send another letter with your I&E showing what you will be paying them.

    I haven't read back on all posts today so cant remember all your details so apologies if what I have said is not relevant xx
    DMP Number 437
    LBM May 2015 47k in debt
    Starting DMP 1st July 2015
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