Releasing my inner beast!

geerex

Lots of hairy women in this subforum. Lots of men haters too. Lots of women with moustaches. Now, I'm not implying that correlation=causation, but....:rotfl:

LilElvis

LilElvis wrote: »

Why should it be acceptable to publicly laugh at, or pass comment on, a stranger's appearance?

Would it be ok if I were to ridicule someone because they have a port wine stain on their face but have chosen not to use camouflage makeup?

How would you know that the hirsute woman you are laughing at doesn't have polycystic ovaries causing an excess of hair?

Whether the OP is confident in their decision to ditch the razor, wax and tweezers is irrelevant - why should she be abused by anyone?

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

It isn't acceptable. Where did I say it was? Whilst some people might think things to themselves regarding someone's appearance, the vast majority of us would never dream of saying it to the persons face....but some people would.

Whilst it is never right to do that and to openly mock someone to their face, don't be surprised if it does happen. If you are totally confident in your decision and feel happy with the choice you have made, then someone else's opinion should not matter a jot to you. The fact it does to the OP suggests that she is not totally confident with her decision, either that or she should try to accept that there are people out there who will comment and stare. It's human nature, and that, I don't think will ever change totally.

If I go out shopping dressed as Wonder Woman for example, I might feel totally confident and happy with my decision, but in the same breath, I can't expect everyone not to point and laugh. But, because I'm happy with my choice of outfit, I shouldn't let it bother me. Same goes for the OP, if she's happy with her choice, embrace it, and don't let other people's view bother you. You can change how you let it affect you, but you'll never change other people's opinion OR the way they act.

Because you said that she shouldn't be outraged or offended if others openly pass judgement. What is that, if not condoning their behaviour?

She isn't dressing as Wonder Woman - she is simply not shaving her legs and underarms. She isn't deliberately choosing to dress or adorn herself in such a way as to draw attention, just not removing the hair that 99.9% of women naturally have. Surely she can be both confident in her decision not to depilate and also be annoyed at being publicly vilified?

coolcait

[QUOTE=Domayne;68665310...
So I took off my cardigan.
While I did, there was 4 guys sitting across from me who must have caught a glimpse of my underarm rug. I then spent a 15 minute journey with them laughing at me because I'm a female who dared to have some hair. They didn't do it discreetly either - then were flat out STARING AT ME AND LAUGHING IN MY FACE. Luckily I don't know what they were saying because they were speaking polish/russian.
...[/QUOTE]

Domayne wrote: »

........but as a human being, do I not have the right to walk around in my NATURAL state without being mocked so openly to my face and laughed at for 15 minutes...is that not excessive? ...

You don't know what they were saying.


They might have been enjoying the sight of a woman in her "natural state", and laughing at the fact that you didn't understand that they were saying "wouldn't mind a bit of that!!" - and other such boyish remarks.


I don't disagree with your view that society dictates the level of 'acceptable' hairiness in both men and women.


That level of 'acceptability' has changed, in my lifetime, quite significantly. I don't believe that men - or women - are now less naturally hairy than they used to be.


However, if you (general you) are truly secure in your choice to be different, you don't need to justify it to anyone other than yourself.

LilElvis

geerex wrote: »

Lots of hairy women in this subforum. Lots of men haters too. Lots of women with moustaches. Now, I'm not implying that correlation=causation, but....:rotfl:

Please quote then. I haven't seen a single post that even implies that a woman who doesn't remove her body hair is a man-hater.

You are probably better off sticking to chastising forum members for poor grammar :rotfl:

Georgiegirl256

LilElvis wrote: »

Because you said that she shouldn't be outraged or offended if others openly pass judgement. What is that, if not condoning their behaviour?

She isn't dressing as Wonder Woman - she is simply not shaving her legs and underarms. She isn't deliberately choosing to dress or adorn herself in such a way as to draw attention, just not removing the hair that 99.9% of women naturally have. Surely she can be both confident in her decision not to depilate and also be annoyed at being publicly vilified?

The Wonder Woman thing was merely an example that if you want to dress however you want, wear your hair however you want, have body hair or not, then you should be comfortable in that choice and not care what other people might or might not think. Because like it or not, people will, and do make judgement.

Anything that society deems to be not the norm will be pointed out and commented on by some people, it's only human nature to judge, so re the bolded bit above....indirectly, that's exactly what's she doing.

coolcait

The OP talked about people's reaction to seeing underarm hair on a woman.


Many (most?) men have underarm hair.


Why would it be "more unhygienic" for a woman to have underarm hair, compared to a man?

justme111

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Has there ever been a recorded incident of a hot lady and horny man heading to the bedroom for naughties, getting all steamed up, getting naked and then the man on sighting some body hair tucking his erection back in his pants and politely saying "awfully sorry, changed my mind, think I'll nip back to the lounge and catch a repeat of Columbo on ITV3"?

Actually , yes. My friend told me he had an encounter like that. He says it look like a tarantula to him :eek::eek:

justme111

Domayne wrote: »

I probably still would have been incensed tbh :rotfl:
I've honestly never in my life been a victim of abuse/bullying whatsoever, nobody except family/friends have ever mentioned personal stuff like that to me and I really never knew that people were so openly rude like that?
I do GET that people think I'm a freak. I would have thought the same years ago. I still remember when my mum first pointed out to me how hairy my face was. I was around 12-13 and she said it to me in the middle of the street and then dragged me off to superdrug for some wax.
After that, It sparked a hair obsession. I'd sit there shaving, tweezing, plucking EVERYTHING. and obviously, I made it much worse. I had a proper beard, like someone mentioned growing it out to rival santa claus and it's not even a joke, I could do that too! I had to shave it everyday and I had the whole 5'o clock shadow thing and I'd try to cover it with make-up so I'd have 2 layer liquid foundation. 1 layer of powder foundation, and then I'd spray my face with that sally hansen leg air brusher thing, I looked like an orange drag queen!
In 2005 I started having laser on my face...and I've been having it ever since because I was so paranoid that the hair would come back, even though now you can't see anything. I still have 2 sessions left and I'll use them because I already paid for them but after that, I'll let it grow if it wants to.
I always did all of this because I was so paranoid about what other people would think of me, Not because I hated my hair, although I didn't exactly 'like' it. Now I really don't care what people think and I genuinely do like it.
I guess I need to grow my skin a little thicker before I put on a dress and show all of my hairy glory if some people can't just handle the pits!!! lol

I feel for you so much re that hair. I can not even imagine how traumatic it was . On another hand I suppose you had quite an insulated life re bullying/abuse. Dealing with it/preventing it is an everyday occurrence to some.

FBaby

My point was basically just why be so frickin rude on someone's appearance just because it doesn't fit to your beauty standards?

I think you summed it up here. It's not the fact that people don't agree with what your choice, it is how people react to it and that is to be rude.

Unfortunately, rudeness is a big part of our society. Just need to see how people act in their car, in the street, in their neighourhood. That's just the way it is so you can either focus on those who are rude, or you can guess who actually thinks you are disgusting, but are acting appropriately so not to be rude.

Jagraf

i would say from a hygiene perspective it's the same for underarm hair for men and women, but society makes it easier for women to shave there if they please.

So we discriminate against men too.