Children Limit:

Caroline_a

wiltsguy wrote: »

IMO it's all getting out of hand. People are able to choose having kids as a career move to get free cash. Im sick of hearing the phrase 'the goverment can't tell me how many kids i can or can't have'... No one is telling anybody they cant have kids, just that if you do-pay for them yourself-as they are your kids after all.

CB should be capped to two children.

20 years ago I worked with long-term unemployed people. I remember one particular guy who came in and said 'Wife's having another baby because we need more money' (direct quote!!)

The idea of capping CB or any other child-related benefits is a good one, but it should be 'if you have any more children whilst on benefits', rather than capping it as a blanket number. Some people are unemployed through no fault of their own, eg redundancy, and may already have 3 or more children that they were paying for quite happily before.

micky2phones

Caroline_a wrote: »

20 years ago I worked with long-term unemployed people. I remember one particular guy who came in and said 'Wife's having another baby because we need more money' (direct quote!!)

The idea of capping CB or any other child-related benefits is a good one, but it should be 'if you have any more children whilst on benefits', rather than capping it as a blanket number. Some people are unemployed through no fault of their own, eg redundancy, and may already have 3 or more children that they were paying for quite happily before.

I agree, and surely in this world of tech we have, people benefits could be more tailored to thier needs ?

Maddybee33

Being a parent doesn't stop when a person reaches 18.

Try telling my father that. He gave me a heart-warming speech about how once I leave university he's not helping me one bit :-) (no doubt the SM was pleased with him).
responsible parents need to help their children in these tough times.

bigadaj

Maddybee33 wrote: »

Try telling my father that. He gave me a heart-warming speech about how once I leave university he's not helping me one bit :-) (no doubt the SM was pleased with him).
responsible parents need to help their children in these tough times.

So when will you be old enough to look after yourself, thirties, forties, or when state pension kicks in?

GlasweJen

My niece does Irish dancing, my sister would sooner spend £500 on an irish dancing dress than she would go out and put money in the electricity meter. Why should she be sensible when she gets money dripped to her every fortnight and if she's really desperate there's always the bank of mum and dad.

She knows she's got them backed into a corner, no one would see their grand children starve or freeze.

Meanwhile my sister is saving for a boob job, must be hard being on £40K and not lifting a finger to earn any of it.

wiltsguy_2

GlasweJen wrote: »

must be hard being on £40K and not lifting a finger to earn any of it.

which is why the majority voted Tory, we see it all too often as newspaper headlines, tv programmes like skint, benefit st etc plus we all know people that live very well on benefits.

I dont begrudge anyone anything, if they have earned it....

FBaby

I'm saying that the "young people wanting everything now" is quite a common view and very likely advanced by people who had things "now" that their own parents didn't have

I understand what you are saying and I do agree, of course each generation is going to have more than the previous one through progress. But I don't think this is about progress though unless progress involves having all those things despite not being able to afford it and therefore relying on credit or expecting their parents to support them as late as possible.

It is not progress that more and more young people are still living at home (but going out in the latest fashion and driving a recent or even new car), that more and more young people are riddled in debts at an earlier age, and that more and more middle age people see bankrupcy as a normal way of life.

It's not so much about what people expect, but about expecting earlier and earlier in age before actually being in a secure financial position.

FBaby

Some people are unemployed through no fault of their own, eg redundancy, and may already have 3 or more children that they were paying for quite happily before.

Of course there is always insurance against redundancy!

Maddybee33

So when will you be old enough to look after yourself, thirties, forties, or when state pension kicks in?

That seemed a little mean-spirited.
Very few people make an effortless transition straight out of university into a full-time job. Children don't choose to be born, parents choose to have them, and they should do so knowing that being a parent doesn't end when they hit 18, or leave full-time education.

I do hope your day gets better.

Maddybee33

which is why the majority voted Tory, we see it all too often as newspaper headlines, tv programmes like skint, benefit st etc plus we all know people that live very well on benefits.

Where on earth did you get that from? Last I checked 37% was not even close to being the majority.
What newspaper are you reading? The Daily Mail? They make those shocker headlines because it doesn't happen all that often. Whatever the system, there will always be those that try and cheat it- of course these should be cut down on, but it doesn't mean cracking down on helping people who have come to hard times!