PCN for Fistral Beach, Newquay from Smart Parking

atilla

trisontana wrote: »

Don't pay it. Smart are easy to beat and never "do court". By paying them you are contributing to this scam.

They don't even bother defending Popla appeals

benny1234black

trisontana wrote: »

Don't pay it. Smart are easy to beat and never "do court". By paying them you are contributing to this scam.

How are they easy to beat?

By the template or just ignoring them? or something else?

Redx

benny1234black wrote: »

Just sent off the template dispute so will see what happens. I will likely just pay and move on if its denied. I wish I had the time to persue but will cost me far more doing that than just being done with that unfortunately. Which sucks. Because I hate the rediculousness of it.

My second ever Parking 'fine' this. First one was 6 months ago while giving blood.

the above means that any competent person with a bit of time and effort can "beat" these numpties at this parking issue topic , using reasoned legal arguments at popla

for those who are nervous or cannot take it in, rather than pay up they should consider paying a competent person to do it for them, the reason being the outlay is a lot less

the best service for that paid for appeal service is PPAL over at parking cowboys website

therefore, instead of paying £60 to £100 , you pay say less than £20 and somebody else does all the work for you

I would encourage you to do this for yourself, for "free", but there is a bespoke service you can pay and save money compared to £60 or £100

the choice is yours

benny1234black

ah thats good to know, didn't know it would be £20 or less.

But even so my thoughts are if they do it for me, and lose.. then i'm paying £20 plus the £60-£100 fine.

Redx

there is no fine, its just an invoice

if they take on the case, check their responsibilities, did you read the info (terms and conditions) on the site I mentioned ? or are you making assumptions here ?

they say they only take on the case and charge you if they stand to win the case

smart parking is specifically mentioned

even if you lost (unlikely), you still dont have to pay smart parking unless it went to court in the next 6 years, you lost in court, and a judge says you have to pay smart parking !

atilla

benny1234black wrote: »

ah thats good to know, didn't know it would be £20 or less.

But even so my thoughts are if they do it for me, and lose.. then i'm paying £20 plus the £60-£100 fine.

Dearie me.
They are known as 'not so smart parking' for a reason.

I can average 3 tickets a week from this shower, and no, i don't pay them anything.
any hint of controversy and they back off. They don't want to be answering to a certain major retailer about sharp practices, too much to lose.

KellyH777

Hi all, I'm following this thread as I have this week received not one but two parking tickets from Smart Parking at Fistral Beach. I am furious because (although I admittedly didn't read the parking notice in the car park at the time) I have a valid disabled badge which was placed on my dash board on both occasions. Now surely if the car park is the property of the council (but is leased to these morons) ... I should be able to park free of charge with the use of my disabled badge. When I received the first ticket through the post, I immediately went through the appeal procedure on their website, which states that I was parked for longer than my ticket allowed me ... therefore they are acknowledging that I had a ticket, despite not accepting disabled badges within their carpark. I explained that there are three hours free parking with the use of a DB and their website stated that I was only there for 2hrs18mins. Now I have two £60 and have no clue where to begin in telling them to shove it! I do not want to give in!! Thanks in advance for any replies, advice would be greatly appreciated.

Redx

I have some good advice for you

1) start your own thread using the NEW THREAD button on the left of the main forum

2) read and follow the NEWBIES sticky thread near the top of this forum

then come back if you need further help, in your own thread though, not this one

ps:- its nothing to do with the council, which is why its a private parking company monitoring it

Ivor_Pecheque

Hi Kelly, follow the advice above, and you'll get loads of help.

The land is owned by the Council, and has been leased to The Briant Family on a 125 year lease I believe. The lease is reviewed every 5 years. The council don't really want to know.

Cornwall are currently undertaking a "soft market assessment" of their parking provision. https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/Notice/d75ebe87-9695-46c6-94f1-10ee729671a6

Unicorn51

I couldn't find any planning permission for ANPR or signage at Fistral Beach car park.

I did find a request to Cornwall Council from Feb. 2014 requesting any planning permission that applied to the car park.

Interesting reading

xxx.cornwall.gov.uk/media/6756712/101001178891Copy-of-the-planning-permission-granted-to-Fistral-Beach-car-park-Newquay-TR7-1HY.pdf

Parking Eye ANPR predates this request