Apple Pay

ffacoffipawb

colsten wrote: »

Not an expert on this, but have you checked you are on the latest version of iOS?

I also had to restart my iPhone 6 after upgrading to the latest available iOS version before I got to see and could use 'Passbook and Apple Pay' in Settings.

I haven't tried it with the Apple Watch as I don't have one yet, and as I am siding with those posters who think buying one now might be a bit previous. I'll give Apple another year or so to get a bit clearer on the technology, and for users to report more about their experience.

Yes, ios 8.4 no updates available.

Cards on the watch, ok, just cant add them to my iphone 6.

colsten

reclusive46 wrote: »

All mobile contactless transactions are authorised online

I very much doubt this is the case.

zhyoo

Linked my two Amex cards, one from amex itself and another from
MBNA.

Use both my iphone and apple watch, didn't work at all.

Tried some shops like M&S, COSTA, TESCO, MCDONALD'S, all failed.

But I can use my MBNA visa card(by apple pay), both iphone &watch worked.

Anyone got this amex problems?

NFH

zhyoo wrote: »

Anyone got this amex problems?

No, my Amex BA credit card and my Amex Platinum charge card both work perfectly with Apple Pay.

20aday

ffacoffipawb wrote: »

Yes, ios 8.4 no updates available.

Cards on the watch, ok, just cant add them to my iphone 6.

If you're on iOS 8.4 you wouldn't need a software update; Apple amended a JSON file (from what I read on another forum) to enable Apple Pay here in the UK.

I assume you've tried a soft reset of the phone and closed Settings from the 'recent apps' screen?

Ballard

NFH wrote: »

Oyster is more expensive if you travel throughout the week. Contactless payments (including Apple Pay) are capped at the cost of a weekly travelcard. But removing one's wallet from one's pocket or one's purse from one's handbag, then removing a card from one's wallet or purse, touching it on a card reader and putting it back into one's wallet or purse and then back into one's pocket or handbag is a relatively clumsy procedure that requires two hands. On the other hand, Apple Pay can be used with only one hand. This is particularly relevant on TfL. In the common scenario where one hand is already carrying something, then getting out one's contactless card can be very awkward and can hold up other passengers behind. Many Tube passengers are already holding their iPhones as they go up escalators to exit stations, not least because of the Tube's free wifi. Therefore touching one's iPhone on a yellow card reader at the ticket barriers is an effortless process.

The same principle applies when ordering drinks at a bar. Many people use their iPhones while standing at the bar waiting to be served. Having to put away one's iPhone and get out one's wallet or purse, then get the card out of the wallet or purse, touch it on a card reader and put everything away again is inevitably more time consuming and clumsy than simply using the device already in one's hand.

The vast majority of people using tfl transport have their Oyster cards in their hand when they need to use it. Let's face it, it's hardly a surprise that it's needed so you have plenty of time to prepare. I can't speak for everyone but I don't find it clumsy in the least. I take it out of my wallet before I get to the station/bus and leave it in my pocket. It's then simply a case of sliding it out of my pocket and touching the reader when required. I manage this reasonably well with one hand.


I haven't noticed that many people with their phones in their hand when they're at the bar so we clearly frequent different pubs. The phones are definitely back in their pockets when they return from the bar with a round of drinks. In a similar way to the Oyster card readers, you have plenty of time to get your card out of your wallet whilst your drinks are being poured.


I have set up Apple Pay with one of my cards but I'm in no hurry to use it as it's already contactless. It might come in handy if I lose my wallet I suppose.


To my mind Apple have fixed something that didn't need fixing. I don't agree at all that it's easier to use the phone. As I've already mentioned in a previous post the fingerprint scanner doesn't work brilliantly with wet/sweaty hands so I can see more chance of delays if it's particularly humid or raining.

InsideInsurance

Paul_1977 wrote: »

I have yet to see a person in real life wearing an Apple watch.

Really? Ok, I am in London for too much of my life but see a fair number of them and the volume is growing quickly. In the 3 banks of desks around me 4 people have one or have ordered one (mixture of actuaries and underwriters so not naturally tech heads)

Personally not convinced yet and certainly not until knowing how upgrades will work.

shortcrust wrote: »

As far as I know talk about upgrading hardware is just speculation. For a company that loves to make its products obsolete I think it's unlikely. A battery change? Yes, but a whole new watch? I doubt it.

I think the key thing is that people who buy watches from makers such as JLC (had to google) know they're going to keep the watch for many years. I find it very difficult to believe that people buying an Apple Watch Edition think the same. Even if the innards can be upgraded, the next Apple Watch will be thinner, and the one after that will be even thinner (and so on...). The current one is going to look very dated very quickly.

People who buy the Apple Watch Edition aren't discerning consumers, but rather conspicuous consumers. It's the same watch with a gold case, and the gold case isn't worth £11,000. It's a statement, as tragic as that seems to me. They're not going to want the statement in three years time to be "look at my out of date watch".

Are there no Apple Watch Edition owners on here to help us understand the mindset?!:)

It is just speculation and so I was surprised someone else confirmed my speculation as "correct".

Even those buying high end watches are split into the two camps of discerning buyers and conspicuous consumers. There are people who will buy Rolex as its "the brand to have" rather than because they are in awe of the mechanics of the movement etc. Look at non-mechanical watches like most Cartiers and clearly you are also in the space of those who value aesthetics or brand over engineering.

1st Gen and probably 2nd Gen is going to be different, I fully accept that, but after a few generations the thinness etc will pretty much bottom out and yes they can play with design a bit etc but if the tech can be kept up to date I dont think they will be disposable.

Even mechanical watches change overtime, ok not every few years but certainly not a very long timeline, and in particular the size of the face. The chap next to me has several Omega watches and they're all ~33mm. Just a couple of years ago many watches were ~43-45mm and this year they are back down to ~39-42mm

zhyoo

NFH wrote: »

No, my Amex BA credit card and my Amex Platinum charge card both work perfectly with Apple Pay.

Thanks, Which store and Where you did? Central London?

NFH

zhyoo wrote: »

Thanks, Which store and Where you did? Central London?

Transport for London (14 times) and Wetherspoons (twice)

InsideInsurance

zhyoo wrote: »

Thanks, Which store and Where you did? Central London?

Similarly my AmEx cards via ApplePay have worked fine in Pret and Weatherspoons in central london plus the local pub back home (not London) using iPhone 6 (dont have an Apple Watch)