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Yet another Parking Notice Charge at Doncaster Airport

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  • Giant_Hogweed
    Giant_Hogweed Posts: 163 Forumite
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    edited 5 June 2016 at 8:43PM
    Ok I've drafted this letter and would appreciate the ok from Redx, Coupon-mad, hoo hoo, Ralph-y or anyone else who is more in the know than myself.


    10 *********
    S*******
    Doncaster
    D*****

    18-08-15

    Dear Sir/Madam

    VCS v ******* ********

    Ref. VC********
    Proposed Legal Proceedings

    Thank you for your letter of 13-08-15.


    Firstly, this letter did not arrive within the 28 to 35 day time window stated on your automated reply to my initial letter concerning this matter (received 8-6-15), it did in fact arrive 68 days later, this I believe is already a breach of any ‘contract’ you think you may have with me.

    The alleged debt is disputed and any court proceedings will be vigorously defended.

    This letter is not fully compliant with the Practice Direction, it is in fact woefully defective and appears to be a deliberate attempt to mislead the recipient.


    The practice directions require us to attempt to narrow the issues before court proceedings. Although I can only fully do this once you have stated the basis of your claim, I can confirm that I was not the driver on the date in question, and that the driver is not resident in this country. As keeper liability does not apply in this case, you have no cause of action against me.
    Therefore, I require this information:-

    1) Copies of any alleged contract (eg signage)
    2) Information on how the contract was deemed accepted - if by performance then signage maps
    3) If the charge is for breach of contract, trespass or contractual charge
    4) If you are using POFA 2012 to establish keeper liability


    Please therefore provide a Letter Before Claim which complies with the requirements of the Practice direction
    PRACTICE DIRECTION – PRE-ACTION CONDUCT AND PROTOCOLS
    (On the Government website.)

    I confirm that I shall then seek advice and submit a formal Response within 30 days of receipt, as required by the Practice Direction.
    Please ensure that someone does actually read and respond to this letter, providing the specific information relating to the county court claim that your client intends to make against myself as the defendant to the proposed legal proceedings. Please DO NOT send a generic FAQ letter in reply as to do so does not meet the requirements of the Practice Direction and will take this matter no further forward.
    Please note, a refusal to comply with the Practice Direction will result in an immediate referral to the Solicitors Regulation Authority for breach of the Principles contained in the SRA Handbook version 8, published on 1st October 2013.


    Yours faithfully
    M. Rogerson
  • No further advice people?
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,705 Forumite
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    It looks OK to me ...........

    there are more learned forum members who will hopefully advise if not so

    good luck

    Ralph:cool:
  • Giant_Hogweed
    Giant_Hogweed Posts: 163 Forumite
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    edited 23 August 2015 at 6:33PM
    Ralph-y wrote: »
    It looks OK to me ...........

    there are more learned forum members who will hopefully advise if not so

    good luck

    Ralph:cool:


    Thanks Ralph-y, I added one sentence about the red ink threat of court proceedings showing in the address window being against the law and didn't mention the Excel V Brunt case (thought I'd save that for later) but other than that I posted it as read above.
    I'm really not good at this sort of stuff, a couple of people have pointed out SIMPLE procedures to follow but this sort of stuff isn't my thing! My head is exploding.


    (I changed the hydraulic pump on a workboat on Thursday as it was noisy then repaired some pipework on a lift bridge that was stuck up in the air and got the road open and the bridge back in working order-now THAT was simple) :-)


    Each to his own :-) (I can't work out how to post the smilies either and tried to give you an official Thanks but that wont have it either)
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Have you already submitted your appeal? If not then you've possibly missed the boat (pun intended ;)) for the current incarnation of POPLA via London Councils.

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/popla-changeover-starts-tomorrow.html
  • hoohoo
    hoohoo Posts: 1,717 Forumite
    Mick_Rog wrote: »
    No further advice people?

    Looks fine
    Dedicated to driving up standards in parking
  • Giant_Hogweed
    Giant_Hogweed Posts: 163 Forumite
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    edited 24 August 2015 at 6:42PM
    bod1467 wrote: »
    Have you already submitted your appeal? If not then you've possibly missed the boat (pun intended ;)) for the current incarnation of POPLA via London Councils.

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/popla-changeover-starts-tomorrow.html


    I'm on my second appeal letter (as a LBCCC, the one above) and I posted it 1st Class at the weekend. Have to see what happens now, but I've yet to receive anything from VCS that is in line with the Practice Direction so hopefully it should be OK.
  • Giant_Hogweed
    Giant_Hogweed Posts: 163 Forumite
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    edited 12 September 2015 at 10:59AM
    Well VCS obviously didn't read my reply as they have passed it onto a debt collecting company who now claim I owe them £150.
    Advice on the next course of action please? Am I at the 'ignore' stage yet?


    (hope my link works had loads of problems trying to link it)

    hxxp://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh530/MickRogSnr/Parking%20letter%20from%20ZZPS%20debt%20collectors.jpg
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,705 Forumite
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    http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/MickRogSnr/media/Parking%20invoice%202.jpg.html

    note the words "we may"

    its gives the game away :rotfl:

    re read the newbie thread to remind your self all about debtcrawlers ;)

    good luck

    Ralph:cool:
  • It doesn't say 'may' on this letter Ralph, it says 'will' . Do I go into ignore mode?
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