JSA stopped, no money, no food.. nothing

liney

macki62000 wrote: »

Alternatively you could go to your GP, get a medical certificate and submit a claim for incapacity benefit which is also based on your n i conts. Disallowances do not come off incap! Desperate times call for desperate measures. You can still look for work whilst receiving incapacity benefit then sign off when you find work. Mind you, depends on how understanding your GP is.

Op isn't incapacitated, they are unemployed. The solution is to get a job, not fabricate an illness; that's benefit fraud.

kari2020

Go to your Jobcentre ASAP and complete a JSA10 form to apply for hardship payments. Also put your appeal in. Do not delay.

peter999

kyusho wrote: »

Is swearing at a manager misconduct? and to put a different slant on it, is swearing at a managger still misconduct if you were driven to swearing at him through his attitude towards staff? By the way some of the things this guy asked me to do were things like;

change out of date stickers on bread that was out of date. there was loads of it and i was throwing it out and i refused to change the out of date labels on them. He did and tricked customers into buying bread that was out of date.

He also never let me or any other member of staff take breaks, when it is company policy you get a break every 4 hours minimum.

He also put my friend who is under 18 on dangerous machinery, for months. Which is against company policy. these are just a few things that spring to mind at the moment. Not to mention his attitude in general. The manger before him was great and we got on A1

There are 2 sides to a story.

Jobcentre have checked with your employer & accepted what they were told.
Does not mean it was correct.

If you think behaviour of employer & as a result Jobcentre are unfair, you must appeal.

Sounds like you were standing up for yourself, your rights & this could be grounds for constructive dismissal.

You were being treated badly by your supervisor & being asked to do things which you knew were wrong.

You challenged instructions from your supervisor which you knew to be unlawful & were summarily dismissed on a trumped up accusation.

peter999

dmg24

It would not be constructive dismissal (although possibly unfair dismissal), because the OP was dismissed.

kyusho,

Did you ever put in a grievance at work about the way your manager treated you? If not, why not?

peter999

INF1 (JSA) - Disagreeing with a decision - Jobseeker's Allowance (PDF 64KB)
http://www.dsdni.gov.uk/inf1(jsa).pdf

How to appeal against a benefits decision
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/BeginnersGuideToBenefits/DG_10013949

Reasons why you can be dismissed
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/DG_10026619

Unfair dismissal
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/DG_10026692

Constructive dismissal -see bottom part
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/DG_10026696

peter999

thanku1

Well, what you can do is say you be taking your employer to industrial tribunal and claim constructive dismissal
Job centre would give the form and explain how to proceed plus they should start paying you benefit also.
regards

MoaningMyrtle

dmg24 wrote: »

It would not be constructive dismissal (although possibly unfair dismissal), because the OP was dismissed.

kyusho,

Did you ever put in a grievance at work about the way your manager treated you? If not, why not?

I agree with this, there must be grievance procedures within Somerfield, you should have spoken to your Personnel Manager to let them know and they should have been able to help resolve the issues you were facing. If the manager had a grievance(s) against them, they may have been disciplined, it should have been investigated whilst you were there.

I have no idea about JSA, sorry.

thanku1

Humm, One more thing I want to add it does not matter weather you cliam for constructive dismissal is successful or not you would start getting benefiit immediately job done!!

KILL_BILL

how ironic that the state always beleives what an employer says happened leaving a claimant to fend for themselves like this person with no money coming in.

even when the person appeals they take ages to look at the appeal etc etc etc and if at the end it is allowed take ages to pay the money

f*ing btarsds

kaya

you swore at your manager, thats gross misconduct, i would have sacked you too, stop complaining and get another job, or is this in the "benefit scrounger wannabee" section?, i have 3 collapsed discs, one slipped disc, osteoarthritis, i spent the last 3 years hating the benefits system and not being able to do a full time job, ive now designed and started my own business just to get off incap benefit,and your problem is?
get a life!!