Disabled spaces on private land

aguynameddarryl

I withdraw my earlier statements, I now believe that every parking bay within a half-mile radius of anywhere that anyone might want to use be reserved exclusively for disabled parkers, to the exclusion of anyone else who may have a need to park close to that location or a wider bay.

Especially parents of young children.

Spurious disability especially welcome.

AndyBSG

Half_way wrote: »

Parent and offspring spaces are nothing but a gimmick, and a bad one at that as they undermine the need for making provision for those who have disabilities that restrict movement etc.

It is almost impossible to safely remove a baby in a child seat from a normal parking bay if there is a car parked in the bay next to it.

Piggywiggy

Begs the question if your mobility is so bad you cannot get out of your car in a normal space but you are not entitled to a disabled space are you really able enough to drive?

Herzlos

Piggywiggy wrote: »

Begs the question if your mobility is so bad you cannot get out of your car in a normal space but you are not entitled to a disabled space are you really able enough to drive?

In most cases yes. You can even modify cars to drive with disabilities.

The disabled person also doesn't have to be the driver, they can be a passenger and still need allowances.

Half_way

AndyBSG wrote: »

It is almost impossible to safely remove a baby in a child seat from a normal parking bay if there is a car parked in the bay next to it.

I have managed to get a small wriggly child (1 1\2 year old) in and out of a normal space with a car parked next to me. and that was out of a two door hatchback car. maybe your doing it wrong.

aguynameddarryl

Herzlos wrote: »

In most cases yes. You can even modify cars to drive with disabilities.

The disabled person also doesn't have to be the driver, they can be a passenger and still need allowances.

But remember, you can only make allowances for the disabled, not parents of young children.

That would be wrong.

aguynameddarryl

Half_way wrote: »

I have managed to get a small wriggly child (1 1\2 year old) in and out of a normal space with a car parked next to me. and that was out of a two door hatchback car. maybe your doing it wrong.

I've seen a disabled person get out of a car in a normal space.

Maybe every other disabled person is doing it wrong too?

Or maybe kids are different. Maybe cars are different. Maybe parking spaces are different.

Maybe, and go with me here, there's a magical mystery land where unicorns live and it's filled with butterflies and Parent and Toddler spaces can co-exist without militant disabilities campaigners thinking they are the only category of people who might need better parking spaces!

stator

Piggywiggy wrote: »

Begs the question if your mobility is so bad you cannot get out of your car in a normal space but you are not entitled to a disabled space are you really able enough to drive?

Of course. You need to be more imaginative about the ranges of (dis)abilities that exist. Plus it's not just about getting out of the car but the distance from the shop.

keepitlegal

Fruitcake wrote: »

As I have already explained in a previous thread, it is perfectly legitimate for someone who is able bodied to park in a disabled bay without displaying a BB, and then collect someone who is disabled. Consequently the absence of a displayed BB does not mean that the car cannot be parked in a disabled bay for the use of a disabled person.

Just to clarify, this statement is correct only in private car parks, not council owned car parks.

Keepitlegal

Half_way

Maybe every other disabled person is doing it wrong too?

As has been said previously there is no statutory obligation to make any special provisions for people with babys/toddlers/children/offspring/brats

Parent and child bays are there just as a gimmick there is no statutory requirement for them to exist any more than special bays for people with brown eyes who drive blue cars.

Those who have children in the back/front of their car are not special and under current laws are not entitled to special treatment or provisions unless the child, the driver, or any other passenger has a disability

Parent and child bays give people a false sense of entitlement to park in and clog up disabled bays if no P&C bays are available ( or provided )

P&C bays are a fairly recent innovation, and it can only be assumed that one of the reasons for their existence is as an additional revenue stream for the PPCs targeting those who happen to park in one without a child ( ie general public/disabled) and those who park in disabled bays as there are no P&C bays or P&C bays present.