Disabled spaces on private land

keepitlegal

As a BB is not required for parking in disabled spaces on private land, how can land owners or PPC's stop anyone parking in a disabled space who has not met the criteria or purchased a BB?

I am a BB holder and it really cheeses me off when you see a guy park his work van in a disabled space, comes out with a trolley full of timber and other associated building materials and loads them into the van with no problems whatsoever.

Keepitlegal

Guys_Dad

PPCs can, if they spot a transgressor, ticket them. (Then we help the transgressor get off - weird isn't it)

And the shop doesn't have staff to sit around and catch misuse of the spaces.

Half_way

One of the oddities is that they dont have to provide any disable spaces at all, as long as provision of some sort is made - this could be assistance with parking and loading/unloading goods

Iceweasel

It's more a 'morality' thing than anything else.

I don't park in disabled bays - I have a disability but not bad enough yet to qualify for a BB.

Once out of the car I'm OK - but i need to open the door wide and the standard UK spaces are not wide enough.

So I generally park in the parent and toddler spaces - at my local Tesco they are nearer to the entrance than the disabled ones for some reason.

Ill bet that statistics show that parents with toddlers spend more money in supermarkets than the disabled/elderly - so the supermarkets want to show that they 'care'.

Likewise the guy with the works van at B&Q, Homebase etc.

Both disabled bays and these ridiculous 'toddler' bays count for nothing in a private car park.

Not much we can do to stop abuse of any bays I'm afraid.

Umkomaas

So I generally park in the parent and toddler spaces - at my local Tesco they are nearer to the entrance than the disabled ones for some reason.

Worm on hook, stand by. A misinformed onslaught on its way! :rotfl:

Half_way

Parent and offspring spaces are nothing but a gimmick, and a bad one at that as they undermine the need for making provision for those who have disabilities that restrict movement etc.
If you have a long term disability that affects your movement/means that you need extra provision you should park in the disabled space/ask for assistance. Blue badge or no blue badge ( the BB doesnt apply on private land )
Heres what you do: park in a disabled badge with no blue badge, go the to CS desk and tell them that you have a long term disability thats covered under the equalities act, and you've parked in a disabled bay, and your vehice reg is XXXX however you have no blue badge.
As you trust that the supermarket is aware of its responsibilities under the Equalities act you expect your vehicle not to be ticketed as this would be a clear breach by the supermarket of the Equalities act.

aguynameddarryl

Umkomaas wrote: »

Worm on hook, stand by. A misinformed onslaught on its way! :rotfl:

*bite*

Half_way wrote: »

Parent and offspring spaces are nothing but a gimmick, and a bad one at that as they undermine the need for making provision for those who have disabilities that restrict movement etc.

While I appreciate your basic premise that car parking spaces aren't big enough for cars these days, especially taking into account people who may have disabilities, I can only presume you've not tried to put a baby carry-cot into a car through a three inch gap left by the inconsiderate twots who have parked right up against your door?

Why do some many people seem to make that they're a special case against another group? I've rarely, if ever, seen parents bemoaning disabled bays as being "gimmicks".

Guys_Dad

Half_way wrote: »

Parent and offspring spaces are nothing but a gimmick, and a bad one at that as they undermine the need for making provision for those who have disabilities that restrict movement etc.
If you have a long term disability that affects your movement/means that you need extra provision you should park in the disabled space/ask for assistance. Blue badge or no blue badge ( the BB doesnt apply on private land )
Heres what you do: park in a disabled badge with no blue badge, go the to CS desk and tell them that you have a long term disability thats covered under the equalities act, and you've parked in a disabled bay, and your vehice reg is XXXX however you have no blue badge.
As you trust that the supermarket is aware of its responsibilities under the Equalities act you expect your vehicle not to be ticketed as this would be a clear breach by the supermarket of the Equalities act.

And that guarantees no ticket? I think not! It is still up to the PPC and their contract whether or not they ticket you.

Half_way

In the world of ppc land nothing can gaurentee not getting a ticket.

Piggywiggy

The parent and child spaces aren't a gimmick, it stops having doors bashed in to the side of your car because there just isn't room to get a baby seat in and out of the car, I don't agree with them always seeming to be the closest spaces to the store though.

stator

They are a gimmick.
All parking spaces should be wide enough to get in and out of without banging peoples doors! Most aren't.
The presence of hundreds of disabled bays and then another hundred parent and child bays does cause a Wright Hassall to people who have slightly reduced mobility but no official disability as they have to park further away.